Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 4 of 4 1 2 3 4
Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: Thumperdart] #2324567
06/21/17 09:20 AM
06/21/17 09:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
mopar dave Offline OP
master
mopar dave  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
I dont doubt that a bit. My sb was short filled and oil always ran hot. Good oil like amsoil is good to 380* before it starts to break down. Will need a oil cooler and may switch over to E85 if i need to.

Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2324663
06/21/17 12:47 PM
06/21/17 12:47 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
I like dependable simplicity..........plus I drive mine more than most at this power level n/a and over heating weather oil or water is a no-no in my book.......... coffee

Last edited by Thumperdart; 06/21/17 01:23 PM.

72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2324674
06/21/17 01:07 PM
06/21/17 01:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,492
So. Burlington, Vt.
F
fast68plymouth Offline
I Live Here
fast68plymouth  Offline
I Live Here
F

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,492
So. Burlington, Vt.
On a low deck block, filling to the bottom of the water pump hole can often result in water flow problems through the block, since at that height the fill can get to the bottom of the head bolt bosses....... Which can restrict/block the coolant from reaching certain areas of the block.

On an RB block, that same level of fill would have the bolt bosses 3/4" farther away from the filler.


68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123
Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: fast68plymouth] #2324699
06/21/17 01:40 PM
06/21/17 01:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
mopar dave Offline OP
master
mopar dave  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
its filled 3" below the deck. could have some issues.

Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2324705
06/21/17 01:50 PM
06/21/17 01:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
I only repeated what I was told and personally would never add that weight to the ft. end of the car but that's me........stock 400 block here, 15 years of street/strip bashing, stock 413 off-set ground crank and stock caps. In the 9's for years and ZERO issues.............kinda like the 8 3/4 that went many years....... thumbs


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2324721
06/21/17 02:14 PM
06/21/17 02:14 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 103
Kansas, Topeka
6
69 lawndart Offline
member
69 lawndart  Offline
member
6

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 103
Kansas, Topeka
I ran a filled 420 small block on drag week 6 times. Changed oil (Val 20W-50 racing) mid week and let it run. I have a oil cooler with -12 lines. Oil temp runs 205 to 210 with the oil temp sender in the oil pan. Interesting thing happened to me on one of the trips in the middle of the week I thought my valve springs were getting week so I changed them at the track to a new set, and the oil temp increased by 15 to 20 deg's. The old springs were a set of the polished ones, chrome looking springs. That block is now being used in the 468 in the Cuda drove it last weekend to KC 80+ deg air temp, and the oil temp ran 210 to 215, water temp was 185.

Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2324740
06/21/17 02:45 PM
06/21/17 02:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,492
So. Burlington, Vt.
F
fast68plymouth Offline
I Live Here
fast68plymouth  Offline
I Live Here
F

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 14,492
So. Burlington, Vt.
That's a great little tidbit of info about the polished springs.


68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123
Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: 69 lawndart] #2324745
06/21/17 02:49 PM
06/21/17 02:49 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,099
Bend,OR USA
C
Cab_Burge Online work
I Win
Cab_Burge  Online Work
I Win
C

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,099
Bend,OR USA
Sterling Goins(owner of Air Flow Research) told me years ago that the valve springs make up a bunch of the heat in oil, especially on roundy round race motors shruggy
More pressure, more heat shruggy


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2324775
06/21/17 03:26 PM
06/21/17 03:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
mopar dave Offline OP
master
mopar dave  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
what size oil cooler do ya think it would take to keep temps in check? fan?

Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2324791
06/21/17 04:02 PM
06/21/17 04:02 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,489
northern,Ohio,USA
C
Clanton Offline
master
Clanton  Offline
master
C

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,489
northern,Ohio,USA
Originally Posted By mopar dave
what size oil cooler do ya think it would take to keep temps in check? fan?
after the cost of all that you could just put your current cooler in a water tank circulated with coolent from the heater tubes from the water pump,A tank 1" bigger than the cooler on all sides.

Last edited by Clanton; 06/21/17 04:09 PM.

GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads.
http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/
Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2324792
06/21/17 04:06 PM
06/21/17 04:06 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 103
Kansas, Topeka
6
69 lawndart Offline
member
69 lawndart  Offline
member
6

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 103
Kansas, Topeka
I have a 4 pass on mine.

Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: 69 lawndart] #2324973
06/21/17 11:08 PM
06/21/17 11:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
mopar dave Offline OP
master
mopar dave  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
10 row? 15 row? been looking at the coolers with fans on them.

Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: Clanton] #2324976
06/21/17 11:10 PM
06/21/17 11:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
mopar dave Offline OP
master
mopar dave  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
i currently dont have any oil cooler.

Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2324979
06/21/17 11:20 PM
06/21/17 11:20 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,489
northern,Ohio,USA
C
Clanton Offline
master
Clanton  Offline
master
C

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,489
northern,Ohio,USA
Originally Posted By mopar dave
i currently dont have any oil cooler.
To save a few bucks you could get 1 off a motorcycle but cooling with water can be better than in air.


GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads.
http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/
Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: Clanton] #2325074
06/22/17 03:09 AM
06/22/17 03:09 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
mopar dave Offline OP
master
mopar dave  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
Where do ya find the water to air oil coolers at. Iv never seen one.

Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2325082
06/22/17 03:43 AM
06/22/17 03:43 AM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,099
Bend,OR USA
C
Cab_Burge Online work
I Win
Cab_Burge  Online Work
I Win
C

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 43,099
Bend,OR USA
Most stock radiators have them for the tranny to help warm them up work grin scope up


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: Cab_Burge] #2325119
06/22/17 08:56 AM
06/22/17 08:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
mopar dave Offline OP
master
mopar dave  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
Think im gonna have a tough time cooling the coolant. Not sure i would want it to do double duty with both oil and coolant.

Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: mopar dave] #2325138
06/22/17 10:51 AM
06/22/17 10:51 AM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,489
northern,Ohio,USA
C
Clanton Offline
master
Clanton  Offline
master
C

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 4,489
northern,Ohio,USA
The engine has the same BTU you just use 2 ways to cool it.


GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads.
http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/
Re: How much is too much hard block [Re: Clanton] #2325290
06/22/17 03:54 PM
06/22/17 03:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
mopar dave Offline OP
master
mopar dave  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,031
Mt Morris Michigan
yeah,but wouldnt it over tax the cooling system trying to cool the oil and coolant with the same radiator?

Page 4 of 4 1 2 3 4






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1