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Does anyone wire choke wide open? #232396
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Just curious how many wire their manual chokes open and if this is a bad thing to do?

Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: ireland383] #232397
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I have done it, no big deal. However a better solution, particularly on a cold start, is to take the time to actually hook up a choke pull cable to it like it was intended. I have mine hidden under the column, under the dash tie wrapped to the honeycomb frame of the column, really comes in handy on a cooler morning or evening, no stalling worries in front of lots of people at a cruise when the choke is partially engaged.


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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: Kowal] #232398
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This is why, after 30 years of every choke type known to man, both electric and hand types, I have switched to all manual hand chokes. No matter how well I ever got an electric choke working, it would eventually need attention again.......and my manual chokes NEVER do. And I never need to wire them open, I just push the knob in........

Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: 4BBodies] #232399
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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.

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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: aarcuda] #232400
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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.





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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: aarcuda] #232401
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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.




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the 4bbl on my road runner was wired open, and it starts better than any other old car I had with a working choke, manuel or otherwise.


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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: SeventyGTX] #232402
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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.










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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: OzHemi] #232403
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I wired the choke on my thermoquad open for a few weeks. It was crap to drive. On cold mornings I had to give it throttle to keep it going for the first minute until it would idle. I soon decided to take the time to tune the stock auto choke and now it starts awesome. Even when it's cool outside I don't have to warm it up, just kick it and go.

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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.














You's guys are getting me all choked up!



Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: ireland383] #232405
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I see no reason to wire it open. If it doesn't work right, fix it.
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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: phantomx] #232406
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my performance carb has no choke. so, no cold driving for me!


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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: 70Cuda383] #232407
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you can still drive it in cool weatjer. its just the first few minutes after you start it that you need to sit there a bit and pedal it to keep it running. i don't typically start my car if its below 40 degrees and the wait time is not more than a minute or two. by the time I back out of the shop and open the gate, its ready to go.

Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: aarcuda] #232408
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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.






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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: jbc426] #232409
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+1 for manual choke cable.

Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: aarcuda] #232410
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what is this "choke" thing you speak of? I have no such mechanism in my carb.




yeah that. I have a brand new 6-pack set-up and will probably ditch the choke. I blocked the heat cross overs. I haven't run a choke on a car in who knows how long. I start it in the garage back it out, let it run (feathering if need be) for 30-40 seconds and away I go. If you have a daily driver carbed car you may want to install a manual choke. They seem to work the best.

Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #232411
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remove the choke plate and associated mechanism from the holley double pumpers on the Dart sport (racecar). Run a stock choke on the TQ I had on the original 340 and other street engines when available.

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only reason I have every "tied" one open,it was unhooked....would suck shut and stick some times

try that in rush hr traffic

q-jet comes to mind and had a one of those holley gas holes do the sticking choke thing also

I would unhook and strip all the q-jets down,including the flaper in the air horn,but found by just leaving it in there unhooked the q-jet got better mpgs

got a q-jet that just closes the flap and steps it up on fast idle,after its running the vac pull off opens the linkage for the flaper,tap the gas and the weight falls off fast idle

but the flapper is unhooked from the linkage...sort of a 1/2 manual choke thats controled by the throttle cable

instant start and on the fast idle,engine $uck$ flapper all the way open but stays on fast idle

1-2 mins,tap the gas it goes to curb idle and is ready

add at least a short piece of wire to the choke linkage on the carb to hold it open IMO

Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #232413
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IF according to the initial post it is indeed a manual choke it should not need to be wired open as it should already be cable operated and the cable should be opening it and holding it open.
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Just curious how many wire their manual chokes open and if this is a bad thing to do?



Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: ireland383] #232414
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Just curious how many wire their manual chokes open and if this is a bad thing to do?



On a properly tuned street motor it is not uncommon to experience lean back-fires within the intake during cold running without a functional choke, automatic or manual. Holley power valves don’t get along too well with these back-fires.

I have Aluminum heads with headers and a fully functional automatic choke, starts up perfectly warm or cold. No need to tickle anything when cold. That must be why the carburetor manufactures put those chokes there in the first place?

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Re: Does anyone wire choke wide open? [Re: aarcuda] #232415
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you can still drive it in cool weatjer. its just the first few minutes after you start it that you need to sit there a bit and pedal it to keep it running. i don't typically start my car if its below 40 degrees and the wait time is not more than a minute or two. by the time I back out of the shop and open the gate, its ready to go.




Haven't had a choke on my street toy in 15yrs. 2 diff carbs, removed all choke equipment on both. I live in WI, so even in summer we get cool mornings and I have no problems. Matter of fact,I know very few people who run chokes on their toy cars.

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