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#2321411 - 06/14/17 11:22 PM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: mopar12345]
Bill1234 Offline
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Whatever.... Is this when I tell you that I drove a 68 Charger in high school 30 years ago. Or that I bought it with my paper route money for $800. All of you filppers wrecked this hobby. And I wonder how many flippers pay taxes on the profit from a flip. Probably 0.......


Edited by Bill1234 (06/14/17 11:51 PM)

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#2321420 - 06/14/17 11:49 PM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: mopar12345]
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Most of us bought and drove cheap old Mopars berfore they became classic cars. Nobody has ruined this hobby. It has just gotten more pricey as the cars became more scarce. Just like any other commodity. Is this where I say I bought a 62 Dart 413 maxy car for $500 back in 1965. It was a unpopular used car back then. Times and values change as the years go by. http://s322.photobucket.com/user/stumpy383/media/62-2-1.jpg.html

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#2321436 - 06/15/17 12:11 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: mopar12345]
Bill1234 Offline
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Ok, tell me your opinion of the comment from 62maxweg.

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#2321441 - 06/15/17 12:14 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: mopar12345]
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Loc: Grand Prairie,Texas
I see nothing wrong with buying and selling to upgrade until you get what you want. Most all of us have done it at one time or another. I bought and sold my way up from a 1960 VW bug up to a 70 Ram air GTO in 6 months.

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#2321444 - 06/15/17 12:23 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: Bill1234]
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Originally Posted By Bill1234
I'm not impressed. The only thing you proved is that you are a conceited a## h###.


No,just using hard work and common sense.As for the rest of your comment,you don't know me so why make that statement,with four posts,all negative,go back where you came from or stick around and learn!!!!!!!!!!

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#2321449 - 06/15/17 12:36 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: stumpy]
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Flippers to most of us are the guys who tell sellers that something is wrong with the car when it isn't, or tell them how much it will mean to them to get the car but they are a little short on cash, etc. etc., just so they can buy for nothing and turn around the next day and sell it for double or triple what they paid, all the while lying to the buyer that the engine is rebuilt when it isn't, etc. etc. to get more money out of it.

If you buy a car, enjoy it for awhile, fix up some things on it, and sell it HONESTLY... I don't have a problem with that.

If you're not that dishonest person, then you have no reason to defend yourself. twocents

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#2321499 - 06/15/17 06:11 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: mopar12345]
68427vette Offline
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well, here's my 2 cents, I would offer up to 5-10k, for my 440/6 original block. as it would add that to the value, if not more to my finished project. so it would be a safe investment and hobby/fun to complete the Mopar.

keep it, till the next guy owns that car. and sell it to him.

I'd be excited someone found/has my born with engine. Why build a car and an engine, and spend all that time/ energy, and money... knowing that it was going to be torn down again... all that for the buy in price of 5-10K...

thats cheap....

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#2321502 - 06/15/17 06:17 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: Mastershake340]
68427vette Offline
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Originally Posted By Mastershake340
My '71 V code is NOM and it would be nice if it was #'s.
In many ways I think it would more trouble than its worth if my car's block turned up somewhere. Even if a reasonable price was negotiated for the block, I'd need to get it shipped here, find a place to store it, as I don't have a big property/garage/pole barn. Find a builder to build it, get it installed in the car, store the old engine. Even outside of the cost for the #'s block, how much would all this cost, not including the time and stress of getting everything done?
In a lot of ways, I hope my #s block never turns up, as it would be more of a PITA than a source of happiness for me!
So anyone who had my block and expects to derive much profit off it would be disappointed, because I'd be inclined to let them keep it while I devoted my time and money to other things. Some people would think that's crazy, but as they say, "your results may vary!".


what do you think your car would be worth with that numbers matching block?

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#2321559 - 06/15/17 09:40 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: mopar12345]
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put it on an online bidding site at what you think its worth and see what if anything happens.

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#2321592 - 06/15/17 10:39 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: Mopar1970440]
Silver70 Offline
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Originally Posted By Mopar1970440
put it on an online bidding site at what you think its worth and see what if anything happens.


What good would that do? His buddy would just bid it up laugh2

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#2321891 - 06/15/17 09:31 PM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: 68427vette]
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Originally Posted By 68427vette
Originally Posted By Mastershake340
My '71 V code is NOM and it would be nice if it was #'s.
In many ways I think it would more trouble than its worth if my car's block turned up somewhere. Even if a reasonable price was negotiated for the block, I'd need to get it shipped here, find a place to store it, as I don't have a big property/garage/pole barn. Find a builder to build it, get it installed in the car, store the old engine. Even outside of the cost for the #'s block, how much would all this cost, not including the time and stress of getting everything done?
In a lot of ways, I hope my #s block never turns up, as it would be more of a PITA than a source of happiness for me!
So anyone who had my block and expects to derive much profit off it would be disappointed, because I'd be inclined to let them keep it while I devoted my time and money to other things. Some people would think that's crazy, but as they say, "your results may vary!".


what do you think your car would be worth with that numbers matching block?



Were you the one that either bought or had a friend buy a silver a12 roadrunner project close to lacrosse 5 years ago or so?


Edited by mopars_1 (06/15/17 09:32 PM)
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#2322478 - 06/17/17 12:05 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: mopar12345]
Bill1234 Offline
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Loc: Michigan
One last thing about flippers. Can you please take the car off the trailer​ before you take the pictures for eBay or Craigslist. Show some class!!!


Edited by Bill1234 (06/17/17 12:09 AM)

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#2322898 - 06/18/17 01:58 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: Grizzly69]
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Originally Posted By Grizzly69
I think if I were the owner of the 'Cuda I'd call the cops and report my engine stolen.

Then, I'd give them an idea where they could look for it.


Especially after finding out the tool thought he could extort the owner for $10-15k.
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#2322902 - 06/18/17 02:28 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: 62maxwgn]
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Originally Posted By 62maxwgn
Originally Posted By Mr T2U
the original block to a V code car is worth 5K in my opinion.


But,if it's not worth that to the owner of the car then it really doesn't matter,it's just another block..

iagree If mine showed up someday, I "might" give them another 440 block and $1k for it, "if" I was in a giving mood that week. But if they wanted $5k, they can keep it or use it as a boat anchor for all I care. Of course they could always wait for the car the trade hands out of the family in another 40-50yrs and try to extort the next owner... see how that works out for them. whistling

Flippers might want matching #s (or stamp one), but there are plenty of people who just plan to keep their car. Too them, numbers matching may not mean very much at all...
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#2322964 - 06/18/17 08:55 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: Runner2go]
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iagree nailed it there. I do think #s is a "nice to have" but for the most part is an over rated metric to a car's value. I wouldn't knock myself out to get my #s block, as the stresses would outweigh the benefits for me. Theoretically might add 5-7 grand to my V codes value, but I'd have to spend that to build the new engine, and then I'd have to find a place to keep the non #s block while trying to find someone who wants it.
I haven't been able to drive my 383 convertible very far in recent years because the engine leaks so bad now, and I am very frustrated trying to find someone around here to rebuild it's engine so I can drive it a lot again, so last thing I need is another damn engine needing a build!
But that's just me, others situations vary. But someone who had my block and expected me to get very excited about it would be disappointed to find that I'd just say "mehhh"!

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#2323451 - 06/19/17 02:59 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: SNK-EYZ]
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Loc: The Great Lakes State
Originally Posted By SNK-EYZ
From reading all your posts in this thread, bottom line is that you're being extremely greedy.

The guy is willing to buy it, but not at a ridiculously inflated price.

You could make money on it at a fair price, but you think that you're entitled to half of any possible profit that the guy that owns the car could make.

You're dreaming if you think that it being the numbers matching block will add $35k or more to the value of the car.
It will add value, but not that much.

Quit watching "Barrett Jackson" for ideas on real value of anything pertaining to cars.
A bunch of drunk rich guys isn't a good barometer of true value.
They have money to throw away is a pissing match for bragging rights.
Paying a crazy price for a car at an auction doesn't necessarily make it actually worth that much to anyone else.

A realistic "top" fair price would fall in the $2k to $3k range, and that's the extremely high end.
If the guy will give you a good block and $1500, take it.


You've got one buyer and the guy is never going to buy it with your insane expectations on what it's worth.

You asked people what they thought, you don't like most of the answers.

If you don't want real opinions on what it's worth, why are you even asking the question?

Quit trying to justify your being greedy. twocents

iagree ....snk-eyz has hit the NAIL ON THE HEAD, with his reply about this subject. To the OP, take this advise, or KARMA will come back to haunt you!!!!
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#2323476 - 06/19/17 07:02 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: 68427vette]
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Originally Posted By 68427vette
well, here's my 2 cents, I would offer up to 5-10k, for my 440/6 original block. as it would add that to the value, if not more to my finished project. so it would be a safe investment and hobby/fun to complete the Mopar.

keep it, till the next guy owns that car. and sell it to him.

I'd be excited someone found/has my born with engine. Why build a car and an engine, and spend all that time/ energy, and money... knowing that it was going to be torn down again... all that for the buy in price of 5-10K...

thats cheap....


It would be great if we all had an extra $10,000 to drop on a block.
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#2323523 - 06/19/17 09:25 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: mopar12345]
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Originally Posted By mopar12345

The block is for a 1970 plymouth cuda 440 six pack automatic shaker car.
I was told by a friend of mine to ask anywhere from $10K to $15K for the block alone.


What kind of expert is your friend? An original block for a BS23V0 is worth $15K? Not if it doesn't add $15K to the car. It might add $5K if it also has the original 727 to make for a numbers drivetrain, $3K if 727 is missing.
Realistic value for this block is $2K, since it will need another $1K to prep it for install.
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#2323585 - 06/19/17 11:26 AM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: mopar12345]
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Flippers are needed vs scrapers.

Good flippers are not the greedy ones but I dont know where the line is on most things.

If you ever list a part here or buy a part cheap and resell, your a fliiper.

And I wonder how many flippers pay taxes on the profit from a flip. Probably 0.......

Here again im not a flipper, but only the too rich and foolish pay more taxes then needed and really if the irs feels cheated, they will let you know.

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#2323909 - 06/19/17 09:43 PM Re: How much would you pay for your numbers matching block [Re: EV2Bird]
Bill1234 Offline
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It's just that my friends Mom passed away about a month ago, and I had 3 different people ask me what my buddy was going to do with his mom's car. I guess I just wanted to complain to someone. Well I hate flippers, bikers and warm beer......


Edited by Bill1234 (06/19/17 09:51 PM)

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