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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: gtx69] #231920
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How was the electric fan set up to come on at what temp?




got it wired to run anytime the car is on.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: AHall] #231921
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I had same problem.Have a 69 gtx with air .Seems like your fan is not pulling enough air .How many amps is it pulling and looks like you have a stock altenator.Ended up getting a hhr fan solved the problem.After market fans don't pull as much air as a factory fan.Do a search on here for electric fans.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: gtx69] #231922
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Ok, I just got back from 2 hours of working on the car. Oreillys didnt have a timing gun or vacuum gauge (go figure) so I got the 3 gauge pod. I hooked up the voltage meter and man my alternator is kicking some amperage out. (14)

I started the car, took a piece of paper and put it down in front of the radiator behind the a/c condensor and boy did it suck it right to the radiator. I then put my hand behind the radiator and that fan is sucking HARD! ALOT of air is being pulled out of the radiator-that is for sure.

I did put a 180 degree thermostat in there today as well.

I fired it up after idling there for about 5 minutes and left the neighborhood and got out on the highway. I drove about 6 miles before turning around. I knew immediately when the thermostat opened because it gradually climbed, then all of the sudden jumped a bit- then came back over. Good news was it just sat there the whole time.

I exited and came back thru a neighborhood about 6.5 miles, doing 30 mph and coming to alot of stop signs and no issues whatsoever. Now granted it's 69 degrees outside, that could be playing a huge part but as of that 15-20 min trip no issues whatsoever.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: MMiller] #231923
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Another question if you guys dont mind me asking--

1) Where do I install the oil line for the new autometer oil gauge I just purchased?

2) Where do I install the long probe at the end of the line on the new temperature gauge?

Ive looked all over the engine block and a bit perplexed. (please have mercy on me, im learning here guys--but do appreciate all the help )

EDIT- Instructions said install both into the engine block.

Also, how do i get this nut thru the firewall?


Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: AHall] #231924
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to get the lines thru the firewall, use the oval plug just below and left of the steering column, it is the hole that the clutch pushrod would go thru if it was a four gear. you can use any of the bigger holes on the water pump housing,. you will have to use the adapters in the kit. the iol line will hook up to the back of the block. look back there and you will see the electric sending unit, the is another plug on the back, at opposite angle from the sending unit. again, use the adapters. you can pm me with anyquestions. beeps


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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: beepsalot] #231925
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to get the lines thru the firewall, use the oval plug just below and left of the steering column, it is the hole that the clutch pushrod would go thru if it was a four gear. you can use any of the bigger holes on the water pump housing,. you will have to use the adapters in the kit. the iol line will hook up to the back of the block. look back there and you will see the electric sending unit, the is another plug on the back, at opposite angle from the sending unit. again, use the adapters. you can pm me with anyquestions. beeps





wow, thanks for the info. Here are some pics I snapped of the area---

Is that where I would input the oil unit?


Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: beepsalot] #231926
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to get the lines thru the firewall, use the oval plug just below and left of the steering column, it is the hole that the clutch pushrod would go thru if it was a four gear. you can use any of the bigger holes on the water pump housing,. you will have to use the adapters in the kit. the iol line will hook up to the back of the block. look back there and you will see the electric sending unit, the is another plug on the back, at opposite angle from the sending unit. again, use the adapters. you can pm me with anyquestions. beeps


plug opposite from sending until remove use that hole

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: gtx69] #231927
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other than the external gauge addition the only thing that you have changed so far is the stat from a 160 to a 180, correct?. & your temp is OK so far


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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: RapidRobert] #231928
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other than the external gauge addition the only thing that you have changed so far is the stat from a 160 to a 180, correct?. & your temp is OK so far




Yes, did ok for that 20 min stint. Only thing is, temp was around 65-70 today, no where near the 100 degrees of true test.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: AHall] #231929
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Outdoor temp will make a huge difference. A beat stock 318 rad was enough to cool my 440 when it was cool outside, but nowhere near enough rad when the summer temps hit.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #231930
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May have been said already, but i would hook a thermostatic switch to your fan, so it does not run when at higher speeds, your probably blocking air flow with it running at hwy speed, and will burn it up quick,

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum [Re: AHall] #231931
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I did put a 180 degree thermostat in there today as well.






What was in it before ??

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum [Re: AHall] #231932
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to get the lines thru the firewall, use the oval plug just below and left of the steering column, it is the hole that the clutch pushrod would go thru if it was a four gear. you can use any of the bigger holes on the water pump housing,. you will have to use the adapters in the kit. the iol line will hook up to the back of the block. look back there and you will see the electric sending unit, the is another plug on the back, at opposite angle from the sending unit. again, use the adapters. you can pm me with anyquestions. beeps





wow, thanks for the info. Here are some pics I snapped of the area---

Is that where I would input the oil unit?






There is another plugged hole back there , you could put the gauge in that hole .

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum [Re: JohnRR] #231933
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found out today my puller fan pulls 2200 CFM.

Got the correct radiator cap tonight.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: AHall] #231934
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I was having the same problem with my 72 but i was overheating in the streets and the highway, so i put a 160 stat and a high volume milodon water pump with the stock fan and flushed the whole cooling system and woudnt go past 175 and that was doing burnouts, high rpm shifts (having Fun) and still woudnt overheat. turns out the original water pump was no good and there was dirt in the radiator! hope this helps!!

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: B9ChargerSE440] #231935
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Ahall: holler when the temp hits 100. inquiring minds want to know


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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: stumpy] #231936
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I live in Grand Prairie about 5 minutes south of the airport and would be glad to help you with and teach you the hands on stuff. I'm retired so I am available most days. I've been a mechanic for over 40 years so I believe I can get you straightened out. There is a large Mopar club that would be glad to have you join us. CowtownMopars. Here's a link to our site. http://www.cowtownmopars.com/. We average 150 members. We have a race team and a show team. We do cruises and picnics, hold a yearly toy run and generally do a lot of Mopar realated stuff. Our meetings are once a month at Billy Bob's in the stockyards.

My email is, stumpy383@hotmail.com




I don't have a dog in the ring but stop and think....A man that has been doing this FOR A LIVING for over 40 years is offering his help for free (I am sure he was making over $30+ per hour full time) and he is...sounds like... 20 minutes away SHOULD be hard to pass up. He is retired which means it is now car playtime. I bet in an hours time he can have your car running, starting, driving better than it ever has since you have owned it. And in that same hours time you could have at least 30 questions answered and be well on your way to a set of proud greasy, busted up hands. There is nothing like the sensation of the light bulb being switched on...
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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: RapidRobert] #231937
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Ahall: holler when the temp hits 100. inquiring minds want to know




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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: Curt] #231938
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I live in Grand Prairie about 5 minutes south of the airport and would be glad to help you with and teach you the hands on stuff. I'm retired so I am available most days. I've been a mechanic for over 40 years so I believe I can get you straightened out. There is a large Mopar club that would be glad to have you join us. CowtownMopars. Here's a link to our site. http://www.cowtownmopars.com/. We average 150 members. We have a race team and a show team. We do cruises and picnics, hold a yearly toy run and generally do a lot of Mopar realated stuff. Our meetings are once a month at Billy Bob's in the stockyards.

My email is, stumpy383@hotmail.com




I don't have a dog in the ring but stop and think....A man that has been doing this FOR A LIVING for over 40 years is offering his help for free (I am sure he was making over $30+ per hour full time) and he is...sounds like... 20 minutes away SHOULD be hard to pass up. He is retired which means it is now car playtime. I bet in an hours time he can have your car running, starting, driving better than it ever has since you have owned it. And in that same hours time you could have at least 30 questions answered and be well on your way to a set of proud greasy, busted up hands. There is nothing like the sensation of the light bulb being switched on...
Curt




AMEN to what you said. Already arranged and cant wait for Stumpy to come over Saturday morning.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: AHall] #231939
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