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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: AHall] #231940
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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: Curt] #231941
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Hi matt. I hadn't seen your car around for a while. It's looking good. Hope you get the heat problem squared away.


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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: Dbowperson] #231942
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Hi matt. I hadn't seen your car around for a while. It's looking good. Hope you get the heat problem squared away.




Hey fellow Dallas-ite? Do I know you? Do you know my car? Where have you seen it?

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: AHall] #231943
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We crossed paths towards the end of last year some time out in Grand Prairie I think. Unfortunately my memory is shot and I can't remember where. Sorry.


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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: Dbowperson] #231944
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We crossed paths towards the end of last year some time out in Grand Prairie I think. Unfortunately my memory is shot and I can't remember where. Sorry.




yep thats me brother! Nice to see you on here. Once I get my car up and running again and the weather gets warmer you will see alot more of it- come say hi if i dont do the same first.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum [Re: JohnRR] #231945
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I did put a 180 degree thermostat in there today as well.






What was in it before ??




Buelleur ??? Hello , is this thing on ???

sorry for interrupting your BS session ....

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum [Re: JohnRR] #231946
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I did put a 180 degree thermostat in there today as well.






What was in it before ??




Buelleur ??? Hello , is this thing on ???

sorry for interrupting your BS session ....




sorry man, a 160.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum [Re: AHall] #231947
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With it idleing in neutral, air breather off, does it rev up when you introduce propane in to the carb throat.???? Just give it a little bit at a time.
If it revs up, your idle circuit is too lean. This make it run hot at idle.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum [Re: fox] #231948
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With it idleing in neutral, air breather off, does it rev up when you introduce propane in to the carb throat.???? Just give it a little bit at a time.
If it revs up, your idle circuit is too lean. This make it run hot at idle.




thanks, ill try that once the carb gets here.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum [Re: AHall] #231949
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Any updates???


Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum [Re: AHall] #231950
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On the way over there it was running kinda hot, on the way home, it ran hot. Now it didnt get higher than the H, but still was hot. Talking to Stumpy I may just need to go back to the factory shroud and fan with a clutch. Here are two screen shots of my temp gauge. (Im installing an aftermarket one tonight)

(As a point of reference, with the stock radiator and stock fan and stock shroud, it always ran just to the right of the second white bar over by the C.)

On the way over there here is what the temp gauge showed--





Here is how hot it got on the way home, running 50 mph on the freeway (getting run over too)


Now im running 3.55's in the back (just verfied in but jacking up the Dana 60 and turning the tire an counting the driveshaft rev's) with a 25" tire. Im going to a 26.6" tire tomorrow.

But damn if this heat issue isnt bugging the hell out of me. Im taching 3000 RPM at 50 mph.

When I got home I popped the hood and grabbed the upper radiator hose going from the thermostat to the top of the radiator and it was hard as a rock. I let it cool, just went out there and it was squishy-- what does that indicate? Is my thermostat stuck?

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: MMiller] #231951
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Oh and im also installing a true thermostat gauge tonight/tomorrow.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: AHall] #231952
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Im watching this thread..keep us updated.

I have to upgrade my cooling system now that the motor is a little more "hot". When it was stock the cooling system was just OK..

How big is the opening in your car?
How does the bigger 26" rad fit? Did you have to move the battery?

My opening is only 22.5" on my '69.

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I was asked to contribute money to help solve the civil unrest in Egypt, but I suspect it's some sort of pyramid scheme.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: CrAlt] #231953
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I'm starting with a new 180 tstat and royal purple purple ice, be back in an hour with an update.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: MMiller] #231954
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just yanked the thermostat housing and ill be damned if the current thermostat and gasket werent superglued in. Finally got the old thermostat out, not im having to scrape the old gasket off. Hopefully will be done in the next 20 mins and will fire it up.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: MMiller] #231955
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alright just got back, still hacked off.

I replaced the thermostat, thinking that could have been it. Took off down the highway, temp needle is sitting straight up at 12 o clock high. I drive 9 miles down the road at 50-60, sucker doesnt move. Im thinking I figured it out. I go to exit and do a u-turn, get caught a light, it starts to creep up. I turn around, get going and there goes the needle, right to the H. No matter what i did it stayed at the H all the way home and died on me twice coming back down my street.

So it's not the thermostat. The radiator was hotter than a firecracker, so it's going thru the radiator, just not cooling.

My auxilary puller fan is pulling 2200 CFM. Does anyone know what the factory fan with a clutch pulled CFM?

I can do 3 things now:

1)Yank the 2200 CFM puller fan and get the SPAHL 6,000 CFM puller fans.

2)Fabricate the stock shroud to fit the aluminum radiator, put the stock fan back on, and try that.

3)Put the 26" radiator that was on there back on, and put the stock shroud and fan with clutch back on.

At this point im stumped.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: AHall] #231956
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alright just got back, still hacked off.

I replaced the thermostat, thinking that could have been it. Took off down the highway, temp needle is sitting straight up at 12 o clock high. I drive 9 miles down the road at 50-60, sucker doesnt move. Im thinking I figured it out. I go to exit and do a u-turn, get caught a light, it starts to creep up. I turn around, get going and there goes the needle, right to the H. No matter what i did it stayed at the H all the way home and died on me twice coming back down my street.

So it's not the thermostat. The radiator was hotter than a firecracker, so it's going thru the radiator, just not cooling.

My auxilary puller fan is pulling 2200 CFM. Does anyone know what the factory fan with a clutch pulled CFM?

I can do 3 things now:

1)Yank the 2200 CFM puller fan and get the SPAHL 6,000 CFM puller fans.

2)Fabricate the stock shroud to fit the aluminum radiator, put the stock fan back on, and try that.

3)Put the 26" radiator that was on there back on, and put the stock shroud and fan with clutch back on.

At this point im stumped.




Everything ive read so far has said the stock clutch fan+shroud is the way to go. I think those electric fans end up blocking wind at highway speeds.

I'ed try the clutch fan/shroud with the alum rad.


I was asked to contribute money to help solve the civil unrest in Egypt, but I suspect it's some sort of pyramid scheme.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: CrAlt] #231957
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alright just got back, still hacked off.

I replaced the thermostat, thinking that could have been it. Took off down the highway, temp needle is sitting straight up at 12 o clock high. I drive 9 miles down the road at 50-60, sucker doesnt move. Im thinking I figured it out. I go to exit and do a u-turn, get caught a light, it starts to creep up. I turn around, get going and there goes the needle, right to the H. No matter what i did it stayed at the H all the way home and died on me twice coming back down my street.

So it's not the thermostat. The radiator was hotter than a firecracker, so it's going thru the radiator, just not cooling.

My auxilary puller fan is pulling 2200 CFM. Does anyone know what the factory fan with a clutch pulled CFM?

I can do 3 things now:

1)Yank the 2200 CFM puller fan and get the SPAHL 6,000 CFM puller fans.

2)Fabricate the stock shroud to fit the aluminum radiator, put the stock fan back on, and try that.

3)Put the 26" radiator that was on there back on, and put the stock shroud and fan with clutch back on.

At this point im stumped.




Everything ive read so far has said the stock clutch fan+shroud is the way to go. I think those electric fans end up blocking wind at highway speeds.




even if it's a puller not a pusher? Im thinking it just doesnt PULL enough air.

Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: AHall] #231958
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alright just got back, still hacked off.

I replaced the thermostat, thinking that could have been it. Took off down the highway, temp needle is sitting straight up at 12 o clock high. I drive 9 miles down the road at 50-60, sucker doesnt move. Im thinking I figured it out. I go to exit and do a u-turn, get caught a light, it starts to creep up. I turn around, get going and there goes the needle, right to the H. No matter what i did it stayed at the H all the way home and died on me twice coming back down my street.

So it's not the thermostat. The radiator was hotter than a firecracker, so it's going thru the radiator, just not cooling.

My auxilary puller fan is pulling 2200 CFM. Does anyone know what the factory fan with a clutch pulled CFM?

I can do 3 things now:

1)Yank the 2200 CFM puller fan and get the SPAHL 6,000 CFM puller fans.

2)Fabricate the stock shroud to fit the aluminum radiator, put the stock fan back on, and try that.

3)Put the 26" radiator that was on there back on, and put the stock shroud and fan with clutch back on.

At this point im stumped.




Everything ive read so far has said the stock clutch fan+shroud is the way to go. I think those electric fans end up blocking wind at highway speeds.




even if it's a puller not a pusher? Im thinking it just doesnt PULL enough air.




When your moving at speed you dont really need a fan. Wind is blowing through the rad at 50mpg or what ever your driving at.

Thats way more air then what can fit through your electric fan. It maybe acting as a air dam at speed.

EDIT: Also, take a look at the A/C condenser. Is it really as messed up as it looks in this pic? How many of the fins are bent over??

They make a tool to straiten them out. Maybe its blocking to much air.


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Re: Still running hot in traffic with the new aluminum rad [Re: CrAlt] #231959
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First, you need to get an infrared temp gun or at the very least a mechanical gauge. The factory gauges are not known to be very accurate. I would also pressure test the cooling system to see if there is any type of head gasket issue. Sometimes the cooling system will get cylinder pressure and cause overheating. Do you get little bubble in the radiator if it sits and runs until warmed up with the cap off?

I have a 408 stroker with a summit aluminum radiator and cheap single blade electric fan with no shroud and it never gets above 200 deg even in the heat of summer here in the high desert.

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