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#2311627 - 05/26/17 02:53 PM shock recommendation
moparcyco Offline
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Loc: southern Idaho
I am building a 69 Super Bee to be a fun driver. It has big block torsion bars with firm feel uppers and everything else is been rebuilt. I was thinking Bilsteins is there anything else out there comparable price etc? Anyone now the bilstein part numbers? Thanks

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#2311731 - 05/26/17 06:06 PM Re: shock recommendation [Re: moparcyco]
BergmanAutoCraft Offline
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Loc: Long Island, NY USA
I sell 2 kinds depending on usage. Bilsteins or adjustable Hotchkiss. Both excellent products. For a steel, monotube non adj design the Bilstein is always a great choice. Any questions PM me.
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#2313159 - 05/29/17 05:07 PM Re: shock recommendation [Re: moparcyco]
EWJ Offline
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X2 on the Bilsteins. Love them on my stock 1969 GTX. Huge improvement.
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#2313657 - 05/30/17 02:58 PM Re: shock recommendation [Re: moparcyco]
72Swinger Offline
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I have the non-adj Hotchkis/Fox and they were a noticeable improvement over Bilstein on my stiff sprung Dart. Bilsteins are great but the Fox's are better.
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#2313679 - 05/30/17 03:36 PM Re: shock recommendation [Re: moparcyco]
Trojmn Offline
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Loc: Central IL
An advantage to bilsteins is that they typically can be re-valved for whatever your needs are pretty much anywhere. If your a DIY type, parts/valves/etc are available to be bought and TONS of aftermarket support.

Fox/hotchkis/viking/whoever might all be great products but valving even when adjustable with knobs, only have so much range and no vendor has been forth coming with with shock dynos with numbers... or even vague questions like what like spring rate/weight are they valved for. Maybe they work well, maybe you have too much spring.

When your out of range or adjustment, or when it needs to be rebuilt/change for your app what do you do? << serious question


Edited by Trojmn (05/30/17 03:56 PM)

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#2313835 - 05/30/17 07:56 PM Re: shock recommendation [Re: moparcyco]
67autocross Offline
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Registered: 11/29/06
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Loc: Manitoba Canada
The Viking shocks have a lot of range, I have used them with .89 to 1.14 torsion bars and they have more than enough rebound dampening. You can literally make the suspension stock soft all the way to so stiff you couldn't drive the car with the available factory settings.
Now if you want to change the valve shim stack any motorcycle or snowmobile shop that does suspension work would have no problem with the fox shocks, and it shouldn't take to long to for them to redo any of the brands you listed.
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#2316008 - 06/04/17 02:16 PM Re: shock recommendation [Re: Trojmn]
68rrunner Offline
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Registered: 02/06/10
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Loc: Mountain View, CA
Originally Posted By Trojmn
An advantage to bilsteins is that they typically can be re-valved for whatever your needs are pretty much anywhere. If your a DIY type, parts/valves/etc are available to be bought and TONS of aftermarket support.

Fox/hotchkis/viking/whoever might all be great products but valving even when adjustable with knobs, only have so much range and no vendor has been forth coming with with shock dynos with numbers... or even vague questions like what like spring rate/weight are they valved for. Maybe they work well, maybe you have too much spring.

When your out of range or adjustment, or when it needs to be rebuilt/change for your app what do you do? << serious question


While the data and numbers for the tuning codex on the Fox/Hotchkis shocks are not shared information (why would anyone publish inside information for the competition?), they are tuned to a much finer window than any other shocks on the market for our applications now. They are tuneable and rebuildable, but you would have to correlate your own data and find a shock tuner if you wanted to get it even more dialed in. I would say however if you are at that point with these shocks for your specific application you are probably well beyond your average consumer. The Hotchkis adjustable shocks are more than enough for 99% of consumers and hobby racers.

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