Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. #231003
02/21/09 01:55 AM
02/21/09 01:55 AM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
A
afxcoronet Offline OP
super stock
afxcoronet  Offline OP
super stock
A

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
Well, been making some changes to my car the past few weeks since I've been home and finally made it out. replaced the front shocks w/ a set of AFCO double adjustables, and added a set of Mufflers to it. Ran the best it has ran in years, only made one pass untill the carnage began. With help from Eric Paul(Irun6snd8th)and Troy, I tried some new stuff and finally got the car to react to changes, still waiting on my new torsion bars, but I'm convinced it's moving in the right direction...The first video it went 1.33 60' on a marginal track and ran the best it has in 2 seasons, 6.07 @112, left pretty dang hard...
Enjoy the video...


Second time run, was still in the wheel stand when I heard the ring and pinion come apart...this is the second set of gears I've broke in this Dana 60, and these are 4.30 Progears...Was told it did an even higher wheel stand in the second run...

Gonna replace the dana w/ a Ford 9" I'm done messing w/ this thing, this tranny has bolt in sprag and stuff, so kinda curious how that's gonna look...Then gonna work on the shock tuning a bit to calm it down, just happy it reacted to changes...

I'm down, but not for long, gotta keep pushing forward in order to make big things happen...

Curtis


Taking over the World one win light at a time.
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231004
02/21/09 02:47 AM
02/21/09 02:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,355
Las Vegas
Al_Alguire Offline
I Live Here
Al_Alguire  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,355
Las Vegas
Car sounds good..Man I miss San Antonio had a great time while there. Good to hear you made it back out after playing in the sandbox. Sorry for the carnage but it dont sound to bad.


"I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know."

"It's never wrong to do the right thing"
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231005
02/21/09 02:54 AM
02/21/09 02:54 AM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 16,477
Canada
CrAzYMoPaRGuY Offline
I Live Here
CrAzYMoPaRGuY  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 16,477
Canada
Quote:



Gonna replace the dana w/ a Ford 9" I'm done messing w/ this thing

Curtis




Make sure you use the absolute BEST parts possible with a 9".
I blew up a half dozen fresh Ferd 9" rears , both WAR and nodular cases, everything new every time, different brands of gears, different guys setting them up etc.... 31 spline.

This was a 3100 pound street car on street tires with a very mild hydraulic cam 440.



CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231006
02/21/09 07:59 AM
02/21/09 07:59 AM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
T
Thumperdart Offline
I Live Here
Thumperdart  Offline
I Live Here
T

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 19,317
State of confusion
Nice leave/run. Sorry to hear about the gears.....I must be one of the lucky ones(so far anyhow) as my lowly 8 3/4`s still holding up running low 10` for years street/strip w/30 spline dutchman axles.


72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: Thumperdart] #231007
02/21/09 08:08 AM
02/21/09 08:08 AM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,522
Wisconsin
G
Garceau Offline
pro stock
Garceau  Offline
pro stock
G

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,522
Wisconsin
Its impossible....everyone here will tell you its impossible to break a Dana 60. Even one with pro gears, the girdles, and set up by a professional shop.

Ditch that heavy pig of a rear and put a real racing rear end in it and be done with it.

Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231008
02/21/09 09:58 AM
02/21/09 09:58 AM
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY Offline
Master
MR_P_BODY  Offline
Master

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 52,972
Romeo MI
Sounds good and a nice launch to bad you broke

Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #231009
02/21/09 10:37 AM
02/21/09 10:37 AM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
A
afxcoronet Offline OP
super stock
afxcoronet  Offline OP
super stock
A

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
Thanks you all, was rather disappointing. I got a plan, and will be making some phone calls Monday morning, hope to be back out in about 2 weeks w/ a 4.30 geared 9".
Hey Kevin, give me a call today...
Curtis


Taking over the World one win light at a time.
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231010
02/21/09 10:57 AM
02/21/09 10:57 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,918
Akron, Ohio
ProSport Offline
I Live Here
ProSport  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,918
Akron, Ohio
Nice video, car looks good, sounds good and I'm jealous of that launch! You've probably been asked a million times but what's the engine combo and race weight?


1970 Challenger, all aluminum 528 Hemi, HDK suspension, Tremec 5 speed manual
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231011
02/21/09 11:00 AM
02/21/09 11:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,923
NC
440Jim Offline
I Live Here
440Jim  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,923
NC
The car sounds nice and leaves the starting line well.

Sorry to hear about the Dana gear breakage. You are already changing, but for others here is my 2-cents:

Keep the backlash on the small end of the specs. Maybe a differential builder can make some suggestions.


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: ProSport] #231012
02/21/09 11:11 AM
02/21/09 11:11 AM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
A
afxcoronet Offline OP
super stock
afxcoronet  Offline OP
super stock
A

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
Quote:

Nice video, car looks good, sounds good and I'm jealous of that launch! You've probably been asked a million times but what's the engine combo and race weight?



Thanks, it's a 14.5-1 compression RB 496 w/ Indy MW EZs done by Dwayne Porter he did the cam as well .630 lift Comp Roller, and Flying toilet, w/ Star Vacuum Pump, this combo has worked very awesome and is very low maintenence, Car weighs 3150 w/ me in it.


Taking over the World one win light at a time.
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: Garceau] #231013
02/21/09 03:01 PM
02/21/09 03:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,131
New Lenox IL
cudadon Offline
top fuel
cudadon  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,131
New Lenox IL
Quote:

Its impossible....everyone here will tell you its impossible to break a Dana 60. Even one with pro gears, the girdles, and set up by a professional shop.

Ditch that heavy pig of a rear and put a real racing rear end in it and be done with it.




To the purists, my Fab9 housing and Strange center section have NO ford parts! All are upgraded aftermarket for strength and reliability.
I have hundreds of 9.52-9.78 passes on the center, axles, etc. No problems! Don

5041984-DSC00275.JPG (149 downloads)
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: cudadon] #231014
02/21/09 03:07 PM
02/21/09 03:07 PM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 16,477
Canada
CrAzYMoPaRGuY Offline
I Live Here
CrAzYMoPaRGuY  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 16,477
Canada
Quote:


I have hundreds of 9.52-9.78 passes on the center, axles, etc. No problems! Don




What center section and parts are you running Don?


CrAzYMoPaRGuY
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: cudadon] #231015
02/21/09 03:08 PM
02/21/09 03:08 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,131
New Lenox IL
cudadon Offline
top fuel
cudadon  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,131
New Lenox IL
The first pic was on Rob's table @ LRT Chassis after he put the braces and 4 link brkts. Heres one when it's ready to go in the Barracuda! You won't be sorry!
IIRC mine cost about $2000-2500 with Strange brakes. Don

5041994-DSC00289.JPG (146 downloads)
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #231016
02/21/09 03:19 PM
02/21/09 03:19 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,131
New Lenox IL
cudadon Offline
top fuel
cudadon  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,131
New Lenox IL
Quote:

Quote:


I have hundreds of 9.52-9.78 passes on the center, axles, etc. No problems! Don




What center section and parts are you running Don?




Strange aluminum center, the better pinion supp., 35 spl axles, 4.3 pro gears, the bigger bearings in the axle tubes, 5/8" studs, 1350 cm yoke. Stuff like that, and the price wasn't bad for a Fab 9, which is as strong as most of us will ever need. Don

Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231017
02/21/09 03:32 PM
02/21/09 03:32 PM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 479
Tucson, Arizona
J
johnnyrotten Offline
mopar
johnnyrotten  Offline
mopar
J

Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 479
Tucson, Arizona
What is done to the Dana other than the pro gear and I assume a spool and axles? Caps or cover with the support? The fab nines are nice, but the Dana is tough and you should not be having problems at your ET and weight. If you sell it off PM me, I am interrested.

Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: johnnyrotten] #231018
02/21/09 05:18 PM
02/21/09 05:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 141
iowa
B
bad1970dust Offline
"Hollywood"
bad1970dust  Offline
"Hollywood"
B

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 141
iowa
sounds like you need some one who knows to set up a dana ive got 9 years of 8 sec. abuse on my dana. car weighs 3110. has a 1.27 60 on motor and 1.20 on bottle runs 8.80 on motor 7.70 on gas.rear end has been together for 17 years in the car.not even a bearing change.find a new builder,by the the picture is on the motor no juice!!!!!

5042261-Scan.jpg (128 downloads)
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: bad1970dust] #231019
02/21/09 08:32 PM
02/21/09 08:32 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,119
sc
T
tjmarcus1 Offline
top fuel
tjmarcus1  Offline
top fuel
T

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,119
sc
is that car an 1/8mi. car? if so, why the 4.30's?

Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: johnnyrotten] #231020
02/21/09 10:28 PM
02/21/09 10:28 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
A
afxcoronet Offline OP
super stock
afxcoronet  Offline OP
super stock
A

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
Quote:

What is done to the Dana other than the pro gear and I assume a spool and axles? Caps or cover with the support? The fab nines are nice, but the Dana is tough and you should not be having problems at your ET and weight. If you sell it off PM me, I am interrested.



Has the Strange spool, Strange Pro gears, 35 spline Moser Axles, and Moser rear cover w/ cap supports. Thank you


Taking over the World one win light at a time.
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: tjmarcus1] #231021
02/21/09 10:33 PM
02/21/09 10:33 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
A
afxcoronet Offline OP
super stock
afxcoronet  Offline OP
super stock
A

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
Quote:


sounds like you need some one who knows to set up a dana ive got 9 years of 8 sec. abuse on my dana. car weighs 3110. has a 1.27 60 on motor and 1.20 on bottle runs 8.80 on motor 7.70 on gas.rear end has been together for 17 years in the car.not even a bearing change.find a new builder,by the the picture is on the motor no juice!!!!!





Thanks, I'm thinking of giving it one more try w/ new builder. Your Car is Awesome, one of my favorites on here...

Quote:

is that car an 1/8mi. car? if so, why the 4.30's?


We run both 1/8 and 1/4 mile down here, most our bracket races are 1/8 mile, but the Divisionals and national events are 1/4. thinking of going back to the 4.56s though.

Thanks a lot guys, I hope to have the rearend and tranny out tomorrow night.
Curtis


Taking over the World one win light at a time.
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231022
02/21/09 10:41 PM
02/21/09 10:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,987
Anoka County, MN
L
Leigh Offline
master
Leigh  Offline
master
L

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,987
Anoka County, MN
NO offense Curtis, as I say this from 30 years of racing, but, that launch is pretty tame. Something in the setup is hosed. I have raced / watched several thousand passes over the years, and find 2 ring and pinion failures with that car / Dana 60 combo REALLY SUSPECT. Go back to BASICS. Something is amiss.
Leigh

Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: Leigh] #231023
02/21/09 10:49 PM
02/21/09 10:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,200
Upper Midwest
M
MoparforLife Offline
Too Many Posts
MoparforLife  Offline
Too Many Posts
M

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,200
Upper Midwest
Quote:

NO offense Curtis, as I say this from 30 years of racing, but, that launch is pretty tame. Something in the setup is hosed. I have raced / watched several thousand passes over the years, and find 2 ring and pinion failures with that car / Dana 60 combo REALLY SUSPECT. Go back to BASICS. Something is amiss.
Leigh



Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231024
02/21/09 10:52 PM
02/21/09 10:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,834
NW Indiana
F
fbs63 Offline
top fuel
fbs63  Offline
top fuel
F

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,834
NW Indiana
I would have someone new set up the ring and pinion. I have seen a lot of "Thats close enough" setups brake tons of parts. Sounds to me like not enough preload on the carrier or pinoin bearings or both. Something is moving around. My car has been 1.26 60' with a brake on a Dana 60,4.30 pro gears and stock caps and bolts @ 3170#. Never worn a gear or broke one. I would'nt give up on the Dana.
Bob

5043020-CarPic5.jpg (106 downloads)
Last edited by fbs63; 02/21/09 10:53 PM.
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: MoparforLife] #231025
02/21/09 10:53 PM
02/21/09 10:53 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
A
afxcoronet Offline OP
super stock
afxcoronet  Offline OP
super stock
A

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
Quote:

Quote:

NO offense Curtis, as I say this from 30 years of racing, but, that launch is pretty tame. Something in the setup is hosed. I have raced / watched several thousand passes over the years, and find 2 ring and pinion failures with that car / Dana 60 combo REALLY SUSPECT. Go back to BASICS. Something is amiss.
Leigh






will get it figured out...


Taking over the World one win light at a time.
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231026
02/22/09 12:13 AM
02/22/09 12:13 AM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,135
my own world
theraif Offline
master
theraif  Offline
master

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,135
my own world
Hey afxcoronet did you get that cat from up north ?

Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: theraif] #231027
02/22/09 12:16 AM
02/22/09 12:16 AM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
A
afxcoronet Offline OP
super stock
afxcoronet  Offline OP
super stock
A

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,151
Las Vegas
Quote:

Hey afxcoronet did you get that cat from up north ?


I'm originally from WI, and the car has been in the family for a very long time...

Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: bad1970dust] #231028
02/22/09 12:37 AM
02/22/09 12:37 AM
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,145
PA.
pittsburghracer Offline
"Little"John
pittsburghracer  Offline
"Little"John

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 20,145
PA.
Quote:

sounds like you need some one who knows to set up a dana ive got 9 years of 8 sec. abuse on my dana. car weighs 3110. has a 1.27 60 on motor and 1.20 on bottle runs 8.80 on motor 7.70 on gas.rear end has been together for 17 years in the car.not even a bearing change.find a new builder,by the the picture is on the motor no juice!!!!!




I have owned 3 different drag cars with dana 60's and never broke a rearend. Last time out in the daytona (a lot lighter car)broke the ring gear on the ford 9". I always liked the idea of having a spare pumpkin to through in but guess what. I NEVER BOUGHT A SPARE ONE!!!. By the way the ford 9" had all the goodies.


1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

Livin and lovin life one day at a time




Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: pittsburghracer] #231029
02/22/09 01:03 AM
02/22/09 01:03 AM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 416
Eagleville Tn.
rtstreet Offline
mopar
rtstreet  Offline
mopar

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 416
Eagleville Tn.
60 here but put new gears in once a year broke or not, just trying to be careful

Post deleted by Defbob [Re: rtstreet] #231030
02/22/09 01:17 AM
02/22/09 01:17 AM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A




Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. #231031
02/22/09 02:45 AM
02/22/09 02:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 141
iowa
B
bad1970dust Offline
"Hollywood"
bad1970dust  Offline
"Hollywood"
B

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 141
iowa
thanks for the complement on my car yours i cool to i really like the 65s probley my fav b body. my dana has m.w. caps axles and spool with only a crome cover. always been like since i built it.if you have any ? about what the guy is doing to settting it, pm me maybe i can help you and make sure hes doing it right.been doing this for over 20 years narrowed and set up alot of rears.be more than happy to help..

5043530-duster.jpg (58 downloads)
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: afxcoronet] #231032
02/22/09 11:24 AM
02/22/09 11:24 AM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,131
New Lenox IL
cudadon Offline
top fuel
cudadon  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,131
New Lenox IL
Last night I was at dinner with some MoPar racing friends of mine. We discussed this post.
Both of them have Danas, one hasn't hit it with enough power YET. (he will soon) The other has a car similar to mine in power, trans brake, etc. he hasn't had any problems with his 60.
He bought the whole thing from Strange ready to go. So they must've set his gears properly.
When I built mine I was backhalving the car and going from 83/4 which I was breaking on a regular basis, especially when I went to a transbrake, even with a backbraced housing, tight setup etc!
I liked the drop out center of the 8.75, Rob @ LRT was doing the backhalf, suggested the fab 9 housing, I have had good service from Strange equipment so now I have 2 centers a spare or I can easily change to experiment.
The moral to the story is; I think either will work fine if they are setup properly!
You already have a Dana and if you know what ratio works best for your combo, stick with it and get it setup properly. I am sure you will have plenty of trouble free runs as others have!! Don

5043865-goodlaunch07.jpg (49 downloads)
Re: Video from tonight, and some carnage Followed. [Re: cudadon] #231033
02/22/09 02:30 PM
02/22/09 02:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,608
Rudolph, Ohio
moparguy7074 Offline
top fuel
moparguy7074  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,608
Rudolph, Ohio
Where are you getting the 4.30 gears? Can never seem to find a set.

Page 1 of 2 1 2






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1