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Rock,hard place front main bearing #2308593
05/21/17 04:51 PM
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I have cross bolt mains 1,2,3,4,5 and I need to check #1 but the oil pump is in the way of the side bolt and factory steering box limits oil pump removal.I think I can drop the pump 1/2" to loosen the side bolt and then the main stud to check if the bearing is still tight after that.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2308638
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I have removed the oil pump before with the engine in the car. I can't remember the exact proscess, but I think I had to jack up the drivers side of the motor, and then back out the bolts but leave them in the pump.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2308846
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Sounds about right!I need to grind the steering bracket a little for the oil line fitting so I will put some cardboard next to the engine to keep grindings away so after the pump is out I can use a tq wrench when finished through the k member side even.I hope to just slide a new bearing in.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2308994
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If I remember right, when I removed the pump to install a high volume kit ,
I removed the pump cover first, then the body and rotor and installed in the reverse order, didn't have to jack the engine.

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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: jlatessa] #2309082
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Originally Posted By jlatessa
If I remember right, when I removed the pump to install a high volume kit ,
I removed the pump cover first, then the body and rotor and installed in the reverse order, didn't have to jack the engine.

Joe
BINGO! I just did that,Thank you.Now I have a clear shot at it all.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309085
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Now to do the main cap and turn the engine by the crank bolt to see if that helped.The sound[squeaking tight]came from the front.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309086
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The fun part was on the Koleno block the top rear bolt is in the water passage and water came gushing out.I was still happy.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309146
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Well it is looking like I rolled an oil ring putting it together,The main,rod bearings look perfect[almost,lol] on #1main,rod.The squeak is coming from #1 it sounds like and I could pull that head but if you have an idea to test let me know.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309147
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Come to think of it I had #1 rod cap off an it was still tight.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309151
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I know some of you will say just pull the darn engine but I take this as a learning exercise,opportunity


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309156
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I do see on the main bearing on the tab side the 1st 1/4" is shiny so maybe the sides are tight on all the mains.I will check the other shell half on that main.I may end up pulling more main caps huh?


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309161
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Originally Posted By Clanton
I know some of you will say just pull the darn engine but I take this as a learning exercise,opportunity


Yep a lesson in why you did not pull the engine! but I am guessing you already figured it would have been easier to do that. Doing an in line re-build should only be reserved for a big diesel engine or something that runs on NITRO

Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309162
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The top shell is hard to get out so I am using an old bearing to move it around the crank to get it out,I hope,it is 1/4 around now.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: DoubleD] #2309163
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Originally Posted By DoubleD
Originally Posted By Clanton
I know some of you will say just pull the darn engine but I take this as a learning exercise,opportunity


Yep a lesson in why you did not pull the engine! but I am guessing you already figured it would have been easier to do that. Doing an in line re-build should only be reserved for a big diesel engine or something that runs on NITRO
My choice and I can live with it.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309175
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Well I need a line hone,the top half of the bearing is black on 2/3 of it on a 3/4 groove bearing and by the tab is ok.So now we know and thanks for listening.

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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309203
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There is a high spot at the oil hole and a mark on the back of the bearing from the raised spot so I am sure the others are like that.I had the same issue with the cam bearings!!!!!

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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309206
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This is all I can think reading this thread

Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: The Shadow] #2309209
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Originally Posted By The Shadow
This is all I can think reading this thread
Well if you would take any value from my work it is that if you have a Koleno block you should check all the oil holes for high spots before you have trouble.I think that is important or should be to someone with that block.


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Re: Rock,hard place front main bearing [Re: Clanton] #2309295
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Didn't this block run before, or is thus a new build on this block.

I am wondering how that raised oil hole never showed up before...at least in the bearing clearance checks?

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