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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: The Shadow] #2306974
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Originally Posted By The Shadow
Live in the past with your purple shafts and 906's
Gen 3 is the future like it or not
40 years in technology advancement superiority cant be denied
Crank up sitting on the dock of the bay and build your antiquated 440's



The past isn't half as bad as the future. All the gen X, snowflake cuckold males can't bring anything but a quicker end to the Republic than even I thought.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: The Shadow] #2306975
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Gen 3 Hemi doesn't fit into a-body cars very well. That may have changed, but the first guys doing it had to work at it iirc.

If you race frequently it seems smart to stick with whatever combo you can afford to keep running long term.

I have not been to the track in a few years, but the local Mopar guys never seem to be the ones who can make all the races for a whole year. Mopar guy blows a motor, differential, transmission, etc and they miss multiple races before they return. GM and Ford guys seem to get their cars repaired and are back at it the next weekend or two. Mopar guys here have fast stuff, no doubt, but at the end of the year it's the guy with the budget build 454 single four barrel 72 Nova that takes the track championship because they make all the races.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: polyspheric] #2307005
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
Brand loyalty has it's place, but not if it prevents you from completing a project.
An LSX will do anything a G-3 will do for 1/2 the money.


And your point relative to THIS discussion is what...??

Same with a SBC, BBC, and so on. Your revelation is no news flash.

But try to say focused and on point, so one is talking about the LSX.

*Footnote: If I had to build a Shivy, I wouldn't have anything but an LS/LSX between the fenders!

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307014
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I am building a gen III because it is different. I have owned big blocks ( never a small block though even though a wound tight small block is a thing of beauty).

When I started to think about a new engine I thought about this with a Gen III:

Block that can take 1,000+ Horsepower? Check.

Heads that flow great? Check.


Still a MOPAR? Check.


Stroker kits? Check.


That ticked all the boxes for me, and I am very happy that I went in this direction. More parts are coming out all the time for this engine, we should embrace it ALONG with Big blocks, small blocks, and other generation Hemi's.

Sometimes I think Mopar people are our own worst enemies. ( myself included!!)


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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: The Shadow] #2307015
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Originally Posted By The Shadow
Live in the past with your purple shafts and 906's
Gen 3 is the future like it or not
40 years in technology advancement superiority cant be denied
Crank up sitting on the dock of the bay and build your antiquated 440's


FLATHEADS FOREVER!!!!


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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #2307029
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Yup, I hear you. I have a 4" Merc crank in the garage next to a 59L block and some 906 heads. These are weighed down by a couple of pairs of LY rods. Oh, yes, the SU359 intake hanging on the wall next to the 283 chevy 2-4s intake. None of it's worth a crap anymore.

I must be living in a different world, though, because the last time I saw a GIII for $500 or less was about 10 years ago, when they were having teething problems. My local Craigslists are fresh out.

R.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: polyspheric] #2307031
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
Brand loyalty has it's place, but not if it prevents you from completing a project.
An LSX will do anything a G-3 will do for 1/2 the money.


Incorrect an LS-X is a formidable piece but the heads ain't nowhere near as efficient as the G3 offerings. J.Rob


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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: Neil] #2307035
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Originally Posted By Neil
Gen 3 Hemi doesn't fit into a-body cars very well. That may have changed, but the first guys doing it had to work at it iirc.



Big blocks don't fit well in A-bodies either with out fenderwell headers etc.. For that matter small blocks don't really fit all that well either--we have just learned to accept all the compromises. I am SURE a G3 will fit in an A-body better than any of them with fenderwell headers and with zero concerns about sparkplug access to boot!. J.Rob


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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #2307037
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Well, I am considering going to a G3 Hemi and selling the 605 Hemi carb to pan....

Got hassled at tech the other week pretty good with my race car, and the car the Hemi is in, is not setup to go that fast legally like my race car. So I either need to fully cage the street car, which I really don't want to, or go a little smaller....A G3 would be perfect with a BES dual distributor setup...

Racing needs to go back to being fun and less of a hassle, at least for me.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2307139
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Originally Posted By hudsonhornet7x

"Sometimes I think Mopar people are our own worst enemies. ( myself included!!)"

I agree. Magnum stuff has gone away because SB fans had to have LA family for whatever reason.

Gen III is where I'll be heading next.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307144
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A 904 is a direct bolt up? Check.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307145
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By sixpackgut
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Anybody want to buy 3 old out-dated 440 blocks. LOL


List them in resto section. They are useless



I'll guarantee you this. I can take one of those "useless blocks" and beat 99% of the Gen 3 Hemi's. LOL. And cheaper too because I buy used.


Then that 40 year old block splits at the mains and you drive over the crank. 😳

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: cudadoug] #2307151
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Originally Posted By cudadoug
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By sixpackgut
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Anybody want to buy 3 old out-dated 440 blocks. LOL


List them in resto section. They are useless



I'll guarantee you this. I can take one of those "useless blocks" and beat 99% of the Gen 3 Hemi's. LOL. And cheaper too because I buy used.


Then that 40 year old block splits at the mains and you drive over the crank. 😳



In all my 8 second passes I split one block and never found it till I took it apart after 275 passes. (no concrete, no super plate) Never leaked a drop of water. Now I would be smart enough to at least have a diaper wrapped around it like I have on my small block. Ballistic and heat resistant for the best 250 dollars I probably ever spent.


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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307155
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Party poop! I was having some fun with ya...geez.

Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: cudadoug] #2307158
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Originally Posted By cudadoug
Party poop! I was having some fun with ya...geez.


You gotta get up pretty early in the morning to get a pot-stirrer. LOL


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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307197
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On my hemi, the headers go right in from the bottom. If you had to take the starter out you will hate it but easiest header install ever.


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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307198
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I hate hearing you can build a chevy for half as much. I port LS heads every day. Chevy guys are just willing to spend money. They work on their junk harder. They race more. They blow there junk up alot and do it all over again

And I really dont know of any faster than mine is on motor. Comparing apples to apples

My friends LS7 makes a little more power than me but Im a tenth quicker at the same weight

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Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: madscientist] #2307215
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Originally Posted By madscientist
Originally Posted By The Shadow
Live in the past with your purple shafts and 906's
Gen 3 is the future like it or not
40 years in technology advancement superiority cant be denied
Crank up sitting on the dock of the bay and build your antiquated 440's



The past isn't half as bad as the future. All the gen X, snowflake cuckold males can't bring anything but a quicker end to the Republic than even I thought.






There's so much truth in both of these post.


Truth has no agenda, but those with an agenda make their own truth.
Some of us are so open minded they only see their View



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G3 would be perfect with a BES dual distributor setup...

Racing needs to go back to being fun and less of a hassle, at least for me. [/quote]



Agreed.


Truth has no agenda, but those with an agenda make their own truth.
Some of us are so open minded they only see their View



Re: So a Friend asked me why won't you build a Gen 3 Hemi [Re: pittsburghracer] #2307223
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I left this hobby back in 2007, kept about 50% of the stuff I horded over the years. decided to get back in to it, and IMHO G3 hemi is the way to go, great power to weight, good fuel mileage
If you have a #s matching 440 car, Hemi car, hell even a 340 dart, I say stick with what you know, my 68 Hemi Road Runner is going to stay GII , but if I find a S6 318 maybe even a 383 Coronet/Satellite, I'm going G3,
Some one here said Mopar people are our own worst enemies, that's so true,
Past is good to learn from , not relive
I love my Lil Red and Midnite Express trucks, and those will stay 360 and 440 powered, but if I find A Lil Red basket case, I won't think twice about tossing a G3 in it,
in the end, only you have to live with what you chose to spend your money on, any gives you crap remind them whose name is on the title.

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