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Painting or powder coating?? #2294249
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Hi everyone,

I am restoring my suspension components. Lower control arms, rear shock plates, etc. Which is the better route powder coating or painting?

Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: Beep Beep] #2294299
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powder coating lasts longer and costs more
paint is more original looking and costs less.
it really depends on what you are going for
and what your budget is with your restoration.

Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: Beep Beep] #2294412
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You can redo paint in your driveway !!

Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: Beep Beep] #2294532
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It really depends on your budget. Powder coating is great, but definitely costs more. You might be able to save a good portion of the cost if you can media blast the parts yourself though.


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Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: wylde8] #2294553
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Powder coating is in line with the cost of buying nice car paint +/- a few dollars. By the time you buy the primer, paint w/ hardener, and reducer + pay someone to shoot the parts your right there.

Powder coating is more durable than paint. The biggest drawbacks for me is the color selection is weak (in my area at least) and it's not as glossy as paint.

Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: Beep Beep] #2294716
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Power coating can promote corrosion cause if the seal is broken moisture will wick up under it.

Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: Beep Beep] #2294914
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I should have mentioned this but I do my on powder coating at home. I have never done any suspension components but finding the correct bare steel color is a challenge. I do use the Eastwood detail grey spray paint but I have never used it on exterior parts. Not sure how long it would hold up?

Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: Beep Beep] #2295912
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How are you going to treat the car now compared to what it's been subjected to for the last 50 years? I'm sure paint will be fine. My uncle powder coated his AAR suspension, and I was not impressed from an aesthetic perspective.

Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: Beep Beep] #2296039
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Back when I did the Challenger. And then the Darts Suspension. I did A RIGHT UP. Then some Mopar Rag stole what i did and used it almost word fir word wit "speeling done rite. LOL
I pulled everything down, and blasted everything to white metal. Shot it with PPG DP-40.
Then used paint.
What I did was used Poly Silver as a base. As well as Black. So some were shot with silver and some Black as they should be. To get darker shades of Silver and into gray I tinted the silver. Silver was the same as you use on Rally wheels simple Silver poly base.
Added black to darken. As you add Black it turns off color, as well as darker so need to add little blue. There are lots of small parts ya can do that way even the Transmission Weight ect. Lots of work but was cheap and looks great 100% right no but better than most
Here's what it looks like


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Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: Beep Beep] #2297320
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1. Powder coating is MUCH more durable vs. rock chips, etc.
2. Both liquid & powder paint will promote corrosion if they crack & moisture gets in, but powder coating is MUCH less likely to crack.
3. How long powder coating lasts depends on what type of powder coating you have.
TGIC polyester - good sunlight resistance & good chemical resistance
PRIMID polyester - good sunlight resistance & good chemical resistance
Epoxy - "chalks" or fades in direct sunlight & excellent chemical resistance
Epoxy/polyester hybrid - fair sunlight resistance & good chemical resistance
Acrylic - excellent sunlight resistance & decent chemical resistance


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Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: 71birdJ68] #2297396
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Originally Posted By 71birdJ68
Power coating can promote corrosion cause if the seal is broken moisture will wick up under it.


Sorry but this is not accurate for powder, or for liquid for that matter.

The reality is both powder and liquid paints adhere to the substrate (metal applied to) by a mechanical bond, i.e. the paint grabs the surface irregularities and hangs on.

If the cured film gets chipped or cracked, moisture will attack the exposed substrate and start rusting. But the surrounding paint being there does not 'promote' anything. As long as the adhesion remains, it's difficult for moisture to attack the metal below.

Perhaps the best way to explain this is to review 'salt fog' testing, a somewhat standardized means of testing paint adhesion and durability.

Adhesion is helped greatly by properly preparing the substrate for accepting paint, so part of this testing is a measure of how good the pretreatment process was.

A painted panel is intentionally scratched down to bare metal and the part is then put in a chamber where a salt water combination is misted on the part. How well a paint performs in this test is determined by the amount of 'creep' adjacent to the scratched line. In other words, how far did the salt fog succeed in causing an adhesion failure along the scratched line.

A good quality powder, properly cured and applied to a properly prepared substrate, can go 1000 hrs or better with less than 1/8" of creep. That's a pretty corrosive environment for it to be experiencing.

If after the test you were to chemically strip the remaining powder off the test panel, you will see there is no corrosion of the metal beyond the 'creep' area.

So the finish is actually trying its' best to prevent corrosion from spreading.


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Re: Painting or powder coating?? [Re: Beep Beep] #2297722
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Peabody racing is "more correct". I was simplifying. Neither coating itself "promotes" corrosion.


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