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Re: Reverse Brake Bleeding on the Cheap! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #2291912
04/22/17 01:31 AM
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If using dot 5 synthetic, you must not agitate the fluid. It will bubble up with air and takes forever to dissipate. Air means spongy pedal.

Re: Reverse Brake Bleeding on the Cheap! [Re: Sxrxrnr] #2291952
04/22/17 02:45 AM
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Gravity. It's slow, but you can just do other chores while keeping an eye on the MC.

If the fluid won't drip out by gravity, I just pump the pedal a few times to wash out the scum that's holding things up.

When bleeding I always replace all the old brown fluid with new, clear fluid. New fluid consumed is always about 2-3 cups, no matter which car. It takes a glass jar to be able to see the color difference, and you must empty it often be sure only clean fluid is arriving.

I've witnessed mechanics do gravity bleeding with no hose. But I prefer using a clear hose and a glass jar with the hose submerged. I have a box with all the brake tools and supplies needed just for this. Actually I use 2 glass jars. The 2nd one is just to show the color of new fluid because many times it's hard to discern the color inside a garage unless you have something to compare it to.

Never had any luck with suction, as it would always pull in air bubbles by way of the threads on the bleeder valve.


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Re: Reverse Brake Bleeding on the Cheap! [Re: kentj340] #2291956
04/22/17 03:00 AM
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...if you are still reading, this is is a brand new system, top to bottom, minus the distribution block. What fluid should I use?


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Re: Reverse Brake Bleeding on the Cheap! [Re: a12rag] #2291957
04/22/17 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted By a12rag
Hey Lindy . . . did you guys get it started ?!?!?!???! I would just gravity bleed first, then use the vacuum style pump with jar and should be all good . . .


Hey Mark, not yet. I got my thermostat in. Just need to check for 12 volts at the distributor and make sure that mini starter will crank it. Top off the fluids and I am Pretty much ready to go. I thought I would get the brakes bled so I am closer to driving it once I get it broke in and the oil changed. I'm tied up moving my dad this week so I haven't contacted Ralph and Scott. Hopefully going to call them sunday once I have all this stuff done. Wish you could be here, bud!
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Re: Reverse Brake Bleeding on the Cheap! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #2291972
04/22/17 04:29 AM
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Reverse bleed? Wouldn't air not be able to enter the hose if it's below the bleeder?

Re: Reverse Brake Bleeding on the Cheap! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #2292444
04/23/17 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Big Bad Bee
Originally Posted By a12rag
Hey Lindy . . . did you guys get it started ?!?!?!???! I would just gravity bleed first, then use the vacuum style pump with jar and should be all good . . .


Hey Mark, not yet. I got my thermostat in. Just need to check for 12 volts at the distributor and make sure that mini starter will crank it. Top off the fluids and I am Pretty much ready to go. I thought I would get the brakes bled so I am closer to driving it once I get it broke in and the oil changed. I'm tied up moving my dad this week so I haven't contacted Ralph and Scott. Hopefully going to call them sunday once I have all this stuff done. Wish you could be here, bud!
drive


It is always less stressful when you have someone seasoned helping you . . . I am sure you will be having a grin from ear to ear, before you know it !!! . . .

Re: Reverse Brake Bleeding on the Cheap! [Re: 375inStroke] #2292766
04/23/17 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted By 375inStroke
Reverse bleed? Wouldn't air not be able to enter the hose if it's below the bleeder?
initially yes, but the pump doesn't introduce new air once you begin pumping and clear the hose going to the bleeder. Air wants to travel north so it is easily forced up the line and bubbles out the master cylinder.


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Re: Reverse Brake Bleeding on the Cheap! [Re: a12rag] #2292768
04/23/17 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted By a12rag
Originally Posted By Big Bad Bee
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Hey Lindy . . . did you guys get it started ?!?!?!???! I would just gravity bleed first, then use the vacuum style pump with jar and should be all good . . .


Hey Mark, not yet. I got my thermostat in. Just need to check for 12 volts at the distributor and make sure that mini starter will crank it. Top off the fluids and I am Pretty much ready to go. I thought I would get the brakes bled so I am closer to driving it once I get it broke in and the oil changed. I'm tied up moving my dad this week so I haven't contacted Ralph and Scott. Hopefully going to call them sunday once I have all this stuff done. Wish you could be here, bud!
drive


It is always less stressful when you have someone seasoned helping you . . . I am sure you will be having a grin from ear to ear, before you know it !!! . . .


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Re: Reverse Brake Bleeding on the Cheap! [Re: Big Bad Bee] #2292780
04/23/17 04:12 PM
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I agree with bad Bee The fluid in recverse bleed pushes the air thru.Had a lot of hyd clutch units that would not bleed normal.reverse bled and all was well.I think my bleeder syringe was like 4 bucks.Rocky


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Re: Reverse Brake Bleeding on the Cheap! [Re: therocks] #2292820
04/23/17 05:30 PM
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Isn't there a residual pressure check valve in the prop valve that prevents/makes reverse bleeding difficult?

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