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#2287275 - 04/13/17 07:29 PM 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
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I flat spotted my BFG Rivals last week at Big Willow. Was doing 135 and stomped on the brakes hard to avoid rear ending a 68 Barracuda.

My 295's were getting old anyways and needed to be switched out. Plenty of tread left but they have been heat cycled out from all the track days I put them through.

Height difference of 295 vs 315 mounted on a 10.5" rim.

I was fairly certain the 315's would hit the leaf spring or the upper inner wheelwell but to my suprise it does not rub anywhere.View of passenger rear.

View of upper inner wheelwell. Plenty of clearance.

View of passenger rear fender. I might fold the lip up if I have any issues but there is lots of clearance here too.

Here is the driver front with the steering turned full lock to the right. Nothing hits with tons of room.

Another view of driver front. I haven't gotten an alignment yet and can still get more negative camber if needed.

I do admit that a 10.5" wheel is not the best size for a 315/30-18 BFG Rival S. An 11" or 11.5" would be ideal to maximize the contact patch. The 10.5" does sink in deep enough that the tire acts as a rim protector though!

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#2287276 - 04/13/17 07:29 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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View of passenger front with wheel turned straight ahead. Plenty of space at the fender.

I can still fit my hand in between.

View of passenger front tire. That is nearly 12 inches of contact patch!

Rear view.

295 vs 315

Anyone want a set of skinny 295's? haha! They are going on Craiglist for cheap!

There it is fellas a 315 square setup Ebody. As anyone who has seen my car at the Spring Fling track days can vouch that there is nothing fancy or complicated about my setup. All it takes is careful measurements and custom offset wheels and I'm certain this will apply to Challengers and B bodies as well!

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#2287278 - 04/13/17 07:35 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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You are suppose to square the tire sizes, not the 'roundness' of the tire circumference. eek


Did ya scare the Barracuda driver? It wasn't Steve was it? devil
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#2287292 - 04/13/17 07:58 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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Good save, I was wondering if you flat spotted.
Fun day tho, glad you made it out again.

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#2287307 - 04/13/17 08:27 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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That's a lot of tire, looks nearly certain that the leaf spring will hit, unless you have delrin or very rigid bushings.
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#2287320 - 04/13/17 08:44 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
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The camera angle is just bad on that pic, here is a better view

Passenger rear


Driver rear

It's tight but there is enough clearance where it will not cause any interference with the leafs. Even if it does I still have 3mm spacers that can push the wheel out a little.
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#2287371 - 04/13/17 10:01 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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I don't think the 295's will fit under my Dart without major surgery and new wheels. Heck, I'm even having problems with 255's.
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#2287601 - 04/14/17 10:05 AM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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Thats a lot of tire, looks mean. I'd take the 295's if you were closer, I could use them for fitment clearance on my Demon as I'm trying for square 315's on it.

What kind of rims do you have Ariel? I really like the looks of them.
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#2287637 - 04/14/17 11:04 AM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: NV69B7RR]
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Hey Brent!
The rims I run are Forgeline GS1R's

http://www.forgeline.com/products/competition-series/gs1r.html
The Red Brick would look badass with a set of these! Talk to Mark Schetter and he'll sell them for less than on the website.

I also have a pair of Enkei wheels w/ 295 BFG KDW's that I let people borrow for fitment. A 315 is only about an inch wider( 1/2" per side) than a 295. Reno isn't that far!

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#2287640 - 04/14/17 11:09 AM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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1500 a wheel??? eek Sorry, not going to happen. Guess I'll be limited to minilight wheels some day.
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#2287668 - 04/14/17 11:58 AM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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look at ford racing wheels as well. if you can get a hub centric spacer made to fit your wheel and your car they will be plenty strong as well.
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#2287847 - 04/14/17 06:23 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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Originally Posted By RylisPro
The camera angle is just bad on that pic, here is a better view

Driver rear

It's tight but there is enough clearance where it will not cause any interference with the leafs. Even if it does I still have 3mm spacers that can push the wheel out a little.



Looks better. Is the gap equal side to side? Appears to have more clearance on one side vs the other.
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#2287869 - 04/14/17 07:08 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
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The gap is tighter on the passenger side by about 1/8". It's because how my perches were welded.
No big deal though
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#2287900 - 04/14/17 08:25 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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No wonder this e wheels look so good, Forgelines are some of the best wheel out there! I know I'll be heading down that way in early June for the Sonoma Historics, so if you don't sell the tires by then I'll pick them up.
I'm thinking of buying this tool for measuring wheel offsets once you have the tire size chosen.
https://www.summitracing.com/nv/parts/wwk-10724568/overview/

I'll rent it out to recoup the cost.
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#2287959 - 04/14/17 09:47 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: NV69B7RR]
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I feel tools like those are garbage because you cannot put the entire weight of the car down on them and set the ride height. Nothing beats a deep offset wheel with a variety of spacers to fine tune measurements. With a physical wheel and tire you can roll the car around, turn the wheel lock to lock and be dead on when the time comes to drop down for the actual rims.
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#2288024 - 04/14/17 11:46 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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Some overall Picts of the look would be great!
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#2288038 - 04/15/17 12:25 AM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: RylisPro]
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True and good points. You can get pretty close with that tool by pulling the t bar and shock and cycling the suspension and steering. But the pics above are proof that your way works well!
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#2288060 - 04/15/17 01:47 AM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: NV69B7RR]
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Originally Posted By NV69B7RR
No wonder this e wheels look so good, Forgelines are some of the best wheel out there! I know I'll be heading down that way in early June for the Sonoma Historics, so if you don't sell the tires by then I'll pick them up.
I'm thinking of buying this tool for measuring wheel offsets once you have the tire size chosen.
https://www.summitracing.com/nv/parts/wwk-10724568/overview/

I'll rent it out to recoup the cost.


I have and used one of those on my Charger. I have a lift and just jacked up the suspension and put most of weight on it. I think it's a good tool. Could probably loan with deposit.
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#2288094 - 04/15/17 07:42 AM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: amxautox]
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Originally Posted By amxautox
1500 a wheel??? eek Sorry, not going to happen. Guess I'll be limited to minilight wheels some day.

some time ago i made this statement : "i'm NEVER gonna pay $250.00 for a SET of tires AND wheels ! that's just a RIDICULOUS amount !" uh, well, i guess i'm showing my age....... grin i have since had to rethink that statement..........
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#2288246 - 04/15/17 12:56 PM Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda [Re: moparx]
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Originally Posted By moparx
Originally Posted By amxautox
1500 a wheel??? eek Sorry, not going to happen. Guess I'll be limited to minilight wheels some day.

some time ago i made this statement : "i'm NEVER gonna pay $250.00 for a SET of tires AND wheels ! that's just a RIDICULOUS amount !" uh, well, i guess i'm showing my age....... grin i have since had to rethink that statement..........
beer
Yup, sometimes we change our minds, but I'll NEVER have that kind of money. Well, not until I win the lotto. I can't even save 1600 for something I want for the boat, without some crap happening and taking most of that money that I do/did have saved. I have no real idea what the new well house and new water holding tank will cost me over this summer, at least 1500, and maybe 3,000. at least the ramcharger has new tires even if I can't get to the lake very often this summer.
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