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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2274314
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Ok,,,you guys told me how to lighten the stock column and I really dig how Doug used the old shifter hole.
While I have the column out{when I do it,,} I want to eliminate the clutch pedal that's been hanging out for 35 years doing nothing.Do I just remove it and put a spacer where it is,,,,,,or does it require a different assembly and I sell the 2 pedal set-up??
Dropped the bare block in to peek n see how it will work out.My existing header flanges can be modified to work.Lowering the block down where it belongs now gives me almost 2 inches from the back of the r/s vc,,,,,thinking about moving the engine back,,,,,,,,,, work
It also appears that 2 tubes by the starter & steering box will need some relocation.

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: hemi-itis] #2274350
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Hemi-itis...there are a few subtle differences in the pedal assemblies for 62-5 B Bodies. I have an auto set-up out of a 65 if you need one. You may want to make sure everything will work and I do have to pull it out yet.
I put 4 speed pedals from a 63 Dodge 330 into my 65 Dodge Coronet (originally auto) with no issues except drilling the extra holes. When I talked to Jamie from Passion Performance at Carlisle he said that 63 and 65 were different. I didn't notice the difference... shruggy
He may have meant 4 speed only...seems I remember a discussion a while back about some having roller bearings and others not... work
It's worth more to sell it and replace it with auto but I think you can just change the pedal and use an automatic pin or bolt in the top and retain the same assembly minus the two pedals...
Your call..

As far as the rest of your progress...I got a buddy that does chassis fab and such...His motto is "When in doubt...cut it out"... stirthepot


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: hemi-itis] #2274371
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
Heard he had blown a window into the original block one night racing on the 110. Had it welded back up, but installed a replacement block to which it was probably what you saw and heard by then.
It was a high 10 piece with steel wheels and all. I believe the piece was worked, assembled and tuned by another well known character from those days and nights by the name of "RED".
Pete never offered it to me for sale but was well aware of my car as well. I guess both pieces were rather active at the same time complimenting each other.
By the way, I created a mural of that A-990 on the side wall of his parts shop out there somewhere on the Island, but can't remember what township. Hemi-itis might know.
He was very happy with it.
He asked me how I knew all the lines, reflective points, nooks and crannies of such a car, I looked at him with a stare of REALLY! LoL.

Pudlin Auto Parts was on Carman Ave in Westbury.I can close my eyes and see that Mural.Pete was proud of that.
It's Reds fault I went to work at that repair shop in Great Neck.That's a different book yet to be written.
I met Pete when I was on my GS1150 that was a 1229cc with a hidden bottle under the seat.I was king of Hempstead Turnpk from 86 to 89.My 63 had a blowed up wedge in it at the time.Pete sold me a 66 hemi on weekly payments.Boy,,,alotta history being stirred whistling

BTW,here is Reds currant car with his brother Myron on the fender. Richard Kay is in this crazy circle as well! up


Hello ! Can I get some info on this car ? I a,m not sure why the pics don't show. I am referring to the 62 Dart.
Weight ? What does it run ?
Is it a real Max Wedge car ?
Can I get more pics ?

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: DBCooper] #2274527
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IIRC it is not a genie Max-er, but a car built to compete in the NENA or NSS series. It must be legal weight, so I would say that it sits at the curb at 3300 Lbs or so.
It does run just a tad above the index and the driver is a well known engine builder around these parts. His day job as a machinist is at Scott Shafiroff.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2274562
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You can swap the pedal. Mine was a 3 on the tree.
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2274617
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Looks like I can remove the pedal and might need a spacer to replace it.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: dvw] #2274619
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Plus a three pedal brake lever itself is a tad lighter since it's a smaller foot pad.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: hemi-itis] #2274620
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Itis, sorry my week got away from me. I'll have a moment this weekend. Your PM is maxed out I see.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2276018
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Well, I've been busy getting ready for this race season. But my eye has been on weight loss as always! I ordered my first Titanium fastners! It was a set of header bolts for a Chevy. I got 14 and only need 12. I thought I would find a spot for the 2 extras? Here are pictures of the old bolts and the new Titanium bolts! I went from 7 ounces to 3.1 ounces with these!
So yesterday when I added water it was like the car was talking to me! I had a leak at the water neck? I removed the water neck and realized how heavy it was. I went to my stash of factory water necks and found one that was 8 ounces lighter! Then I was able to use the 2 extra Titanium header bolts to hold down the water neck!
Almost a pound off the top of the nose! A great weight loss weekend!
MJ

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: moparjohn] #2276055
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My kind of language.
I changed up to Ti header bolts also and had the worry of them rusting or sticking go away along with the weight.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: moparjohn] #2276188
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Isn't it fun treasure hunting for weight loss between all these parts? I especially liked and never thought that seemingly carbon copy factory parts could be different in weight when they are of the same metal.
I would suspect the F.A.S.T contingent are pulling off this trickery as well or pulling the ideas now that it's out in the open.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2276488
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The subject of engine set back has not been discussed whistling

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: hemi-itis] #2276499
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this can go in the direction of slightly alter wheelbase!


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: hemi-itis] #2276559
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Engine setback? I don't have the foggiest idea of what you are alluding to.
Talking about engine set. Is that Elephant tilting the right degrees? It seems excessive. I could be wrong.
I suspect that there is a good number of 1%, 2% 4% cars loitering out there with of course the 10/15% Afxers taking the title in broad day light.

Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2276617
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Al, you ever going to put front support bars in that thing? Maybe consider doing that before cutting up the car to get the mid plate to work. If that is in fact what you're doing...

Front supports might allow you to get rid of some of the inner fender (more room, less weight) and would really help to stiffen things up.

Just a thought, not trying to spend your money.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2276626
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That's why I took the fenders off."J" bars will be added.Will also change the fuel cell and add a parachute mount. sawzall


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2276645
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Now you're talkin'. Whew.

You going to lose the rest of the inner fenders? Not much left between the firewall and shock tower to begin with.

You could hang some of your support junk off the bars.


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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: Thumperdart] #2276648
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Not sure,,,YET realcrazy

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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost.......... [Re: hemi-itis] #2277165
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I don't know if Mopar big block starters and their weight has been discussed here?
This past week I weighed the 3 smaller newer style starters.
I have 2 that are about an inch shorter than the third and they both weigh in at 8 LBS 4 OZ. The longer one is over 10 LBS!
So what I want to know is there any out there for big blocks that weigh less? If so what is the part number?
One of the part numbers I have at 8 LBS 4 OZ is R3005984 and is to work with any engine even the V 10 is listed!
Thanks!

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As far as it's known, there are three Denso type lightweight starters that have been introduced to the market over the last 15-18 years. For decades the standard infamously sounding wind starters were the only norm aside from unpredictable and non stock looking aftermarket starters.
These factory starters dating back to the 60's or earlier weighed a ton usually at 16-18 Lbs. My forehead is still recovering from the knocks. LOL.
The first lightweight types that I came across were the 90's van versions that weighed in the hood of 10-11 Lbs.
After those came the 8-9 pounders and then the current one that is at a high 7's in weight. Heat shields have been removed and the winding housings are a tad smaller along with the snout and its bosses IIRC.

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