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Parts Are Starting To Show Up #2275325
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The parts for my coil on plug set up are starting
to show up.. the Holley wiring harness showed up
this morning.. the crank sensor mount will show
up tomorrow.. I already have the sensor itself..
the parts for the tone wheel and dist set up are
on the way.. I'm getting a little geeked up to
get this thing set up and running.. I better
finish up the coil mounts.. I should have one of
them done today.. my coil harnesses will be in
maybe on Monday.. being that this set will give
me true sequential firing I am hoping it will
give me a little better fuel economy... once this
is done then I want to pull the W-2 heads and
change over to the Indy 360-2 heads.. I have the
W-2 intake for that head so it should work.. that
will drop 40# off the front end
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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2275346
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Hi Mr. P

Sounds Like lots of Fun, Keep us posted how this rework goes for you.


Thank you
Kiddart
Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: Kiddart] #2275349
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Originally Posted By Kiddart
Hi Mr. P

Sounds Like lots of Fun, Keep us posted how this rework goes for you.


Will do.. I sure hope it goes smoothly
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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2275350
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Fuel economy, now that's funny Mike


it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: rowin4] #2275378
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Originally Posted By rowin4
Fuel economy, now that's funny Mike


Its a street car so I would like a decent mileage.. sure
dont want to see 9MPG
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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2275516
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Trendz... I got your tone wheel and dist sinc
today..they look nice.. thanks.. now you
need to tell me the tab.. I'm still waiting
on the 2 short coil harnesses.. got the Holley
harness today.. I will need to cut down my
pulley to the thickness for your wheel..no biggie
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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2276530
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Hi Mike,

Any updates on your Holley CNP Project?

I will order my HP EFI box from Rich soon, and will install in Randy's car first, work out all of the issues, then finish the install in my Hemi Super Bee project.

I am thinking about buying the Holley Dual Sync Distributor instead of converting my MSD distributor...I really want the Hall effect sensor for Cam sync, and there is just no room to install a sensor on the Jesel belt drive. I do want to keep the MSD Crank wheel, and use the Holley Hall sensor. So, I would just use the Cam sync in the Holley distributor.

Then, later on, try the CNP on the Hemi Super Bee.

I will get with Trendz, and purchase his knowledge on using dual Corvette PWM Fan controllers, and also his program for control in the Holley HP.

Keep us informed of your progress!

BR, Mark

Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: lockjaw-express] #2276642
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I have all the parts that are needed.. crank
sensor and the mount.. dist sinc.. all the wiring..
all I have to is machine down my pulley for the
thickness I need(1/4" off it).. I finished up the
injector mounts today and the valve covers are
back on the engine.. I have to ask Trendz about
1 wire on each bank.. I cant find it on the
schematic from Holley.. I know there is a fused
red that ties into both banks.. but this red is
not fused and its part of the harness... the fused
wire is larger and is separate from the harness.. I
know where the larger one goes...cant find where that
smaller red wire goes... yet
EDIT
I forgot.. I have to machine a tooth off the
tone wheel
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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2276820
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Mount the crank sensor first. Don't remove any teeth until the sensor is mounted and the engine is at true tdc.

What is the harness part number that you are having a problem with? Did you get the PDF I sent?

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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: lockjaw-express] #2276832
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Originally Posted By lockjaw-express


I will get with Trendz, and purchase his knowledge on using dual Corvette PWM Fan controllers, and also his program for control in the Holley HP.


BR, Mark




When you get the ecu from Rich, he will most likely have a base tune in it. You or he can send me the Global file, and I can set the parameters for the fan output. He may already have this info, so you may not need me at all. You will consume 1 of the 4 programmable outputs doing this. Two controllers can be controlled by one output signal.


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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2276866
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Hi Trendz,

When I talked with Rich, he had only been working with relays on dual fans...I am looking to control each fan with a corvette PWM controller, and have two PWM outputs controlling each fan controller independently. So I will have soft-start on fan one, gradually moving to control temp, then fan two to help out fan one, soft-start with ramp up as needed.

I am wanting eng. temp control to reduce inrush current and to reduce total current loads on the battery/alternator system.

I think this will be your area of expertise!


Mark

PS: I am wanting to pay you for your assistance, as this is going to take some of your time to set up the temp curves to do what I am looking to do...including some needed phone consulting.

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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2276887
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That can easily be done, but you will consume both of the (-neg) outputs. No problem as long as you don't need to control any other outputs with a ground. The HP only has 4 outputs, 2 can be configured as (-neg) outputs and 2 can be (+pos) outputs. If you need more than that, get a Dominator.

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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2276905
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Hi Trendz,

I can't think of needing any more than 4 outputs, and two will be only needed for the two fans.

I do have a Meziere electric water pump, however that will be turned on with a relay when the key/ign switch is turned on. I want the Water pump running all the time when the key is turned on. I have tried to run it off of a switch and a temp sensor, but it was a waste of time, because you always want water circulation when the key is in the run position.

Since the Key/Ignition switch cuts the run circuit out, I have a separate lighted rocker switch that controls a Ron Francis fuse/circuit panel that controls the ECU, MSD (key signal), water pump, and misc items. The "normal" rest of the car is controlled by the original wiring harness(s) and small fuse panel.

Start/Retard will now be controlled by the ECU, so I don't need any other output controls...inputs maybe, however it would never be more than two. Unless you have any ideas?

Mark

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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: TRENDZ] #2276910
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Originally Posted By TRENDZ
Mount the crank sensor first. Don't remove any teeth until the sensor is mounted and the engine is at true tdc.

What is the harness part number that you are having a problem with? Did you get the PDF I sent?


Rick I did get that PDF.. its the same as I
have..PN 588-307.. it shows the 14 gauge that
goes to B14 which Ts and is the fused red.. it shows
it going to both banks on the ignition harnesses ..
then on the 5580307 harness itself there is a
smaller red.. its on both harnesses.. this is the
one that I dont understand.. it is not fused..
I'll send a pic to your e-mail
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Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2276913
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Mike, Are you running an electric water pump and electric fans? if so, you might want to consider the PWM controller(s) as well...it would free up some capacity as well.

Also, the Aeromotive A1000 is controlled by their PWM pump controller, that varies pump output by engine RPM...that will save some at idle too.

Best, Mark

PS: I will be up to the Woodward Cruise this year, and I would like to meet you. Randy told me all the great things that you used to do for him in his quest for a faster GTX :-))

Re: Parts Are Starting To Show Up [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2276914
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Hi Mike, How may of the input and outputs are you currently using on your Holley HP? and do you have plans to use more for other items?

Mark

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Originally Posted By lockjaw-express
Hi Mike, How may of the input and outputs are you currently using on your Holley HP? and do you have plans to use more for other items?

Mark


I think I might use 1 more.. but thats about it
unless I want to spray it
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Originally Posted By lockjaw-express
Mike, Are you running an electric water pump and electric fans? if so, you might want to consider the PWM controller(s) as well...it would free up some capacity as well.

Also, the Aeromotive A1000 is controlled by their PWM pump controller, that varies pump output by engine RPM...that will save some at idle too.

Best, Mark

PS: I will be up to the Woodward Cruise this year, and I would like to meet you. Randy told me all the great things that you used to do for him in his quest for a faster GTX :-))



That would be cool to meet up
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Here is a pic of Randy and I at the Cruise in 2013 in front of our Family friends Vet clinic at the SE corner of Woodward and 14 mile road.

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