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She's Done! #2272564
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About time......






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Same as old but with Thitek heads?

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New Thitek Heads, Solid RollerCam, T & D Rockers, 3/8-.145 wall Pushrods....

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Do you like how the T&D work? Adjustments?

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Yes. They are very well built. I should've just bought these before I wasted all the time I did trying to make my own.

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Good to know, Thanks

Re: She's Done! [Re: STEFF] #2272626
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What sort of flow improvement dot he Thiteks offer vs. you ported stockers?

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About 30 cfm more flow average.

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Wow!! Want to sell your old cam?? LOL!

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Very Nice!


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Originally Posted By hudsonhornet7x
Wow!! Want to sell your old cam?? LOL!


It got ruined during a regrind. They had to make me a new one.

Re: She's Done! [Re: STEFF] #2272665
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What did you do for lifters did you shim them yourself or did you do something else?

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Originally Posted By STEFF
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Wow!! Want to sell your old cam?? LOL!


It got ruined during a regrind. They had to make me a new one.



Man that sounds expensive. I know how much LSM cams cost. Good luck with the new one!

Re: She's Done! [Re: STEFF] #2272682
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They made the mistake, so I got the new cam for the regrind cost.

Hey Dave, I shimmed a set of Hylift Johnson lifters with direct shot oiling. There are no solid lifters available at the moment. Nobody is making them.

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Well that is good news. I like the valve covers as well. Really suits the car it will be going in.

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I like them too! But, not a cheap proposition. Had to do it when I realized the stock ones would not fit with the T & D rockers.

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Fair enough, they look great. Lots more clearance too. I have a set of Hellcat valve covers but I like the looks of those much better. Hmmm...

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Very nice! Is it going on the pump? Like to know the numbers.

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Originally Posted By fbs63
Very nice! Is it going on the pump? Like to know the numbers.


No pump. Put it in the car yesterday. Will be at the track in a few weekends.

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Cool! Keep us posted on how it runs. You have a part number for the T&D rockers? I looked on their website and they don't list them yet. Also do you recall the crank to cam centerline dimension? Wondering how close it is to an LA motor.

Re: She's Done! [Re: STEFF] #2272882
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Love it !!!! Damn that intake is tall.

Re: She's Done! [Re: STEFF] #2273058
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I always wondered, what is the advantage to a belt drive oil pump? Also is their a pre-filter on that line before going to the pump?


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Originally Posted By fbs63
Cool! Keep us posted on how it runs. You have a part number for the T&D rockers? I looked on their website and they don't list them yet. Also do you recall the crank to cam centerline dimension? Wondering how close it is to an LA motor.



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Thanks!

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Crank to Cam Centerline is 189mm (7.4409")

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Awesome. Thanks Steff!

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Originally Posted By STEFF
Yes. They are very well built. I should've just bought these before I wasted all the time I did trying to make my own.


Awesome engine!

Do you have any pics of the T&D stuff on the heads or otherwise?

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Steff, did T and D improve the maximum valve lift or is it still limited to .680 or so?


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And do you have a build thread? It's a 6.4 block right?

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MoparMitch, yes, I do have pics. I will get them posted later.

Adrielp, no, the ratio is stock. They are designed as "bolt-on". The Jesel System is your only option for more ratio and it's the best way to go. To get more ratio with a common shaft rocker assy, the shafts need to move and even then, it is limiting.

WO23Coronet, no build thread this time around. It is basically the same shortblock I built 4 years ago, with new heads, rockers, cam....

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Might be a silly question but do you have any idea how much taller it is at the carb base then a LA with a Indy 360-1 intake? Can a person mill the carb base down an 1" or 2"? Or would it hurt performance to much? It will be a Procharged set-up if I go this way, I was thinking of possibly doing a Gen3 when/if my R3/Indy combo goes pop. I want to keep a flat hood on my Dart so that's why I ask.

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By the way your motor looks awesome.

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Rocker pics.....



A little clearancing required for the Intake adjuster.


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Originally Posted By 80arrow
Might be a silly question but do you have any idea how much taller it is at the carb base then a LA with a Indy 360-1 intake? Can a person mill the carb base down an 1" or 2"? Or would it hurt performance to much? It will be a Procharged set-up if I go this way, I was thinking of possibly doing a Gen3 when/if my R3/Indy combo goes pop. I want to keep a flat hood on my Dart so that's why I ask.


No clue how they compare. You can cut the plenum shorter. I dont think the plenum volume means much with forced induction. I do know that NA, the more I made the plenum larger, that faster it went down the track. I'm going to add spacer to see where it tops out at, then look at making the plenum larger by modifying the intake, instead of using spacers.

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Nice stuff! The spacers polymer?

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Originally Posted By fbs63
Nice stuff! The spacers polymer?


Yes. Some type of Delrin or ??

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Looks exactly like the material that Koffel has made his spacers out of for ever.

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That rocker setup rocks! pun intended!

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What kind of hp/tq?


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Originally Posted By 80arrow
Might be a silly question but do you have any idea how much taller it is at the carb base then a LA with a Indy 360-1 intake? Can a person mill the carb base down an 1" or 2"? ...


Probably no more that a foot or two taller. I can't imagine using that tall of an intake on any car of mine, forced induction is a much better way to go. Best overall package would be a bolt-on supercharger. You might need a custom intake manifold to feed it with a Procharger and not be unnecessarily tall. Can you feed a factory intake with a Procharger?

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Maybe bolt a flat plate over the carb pad and bore a hole in the side/sides to feed air from the super/turbo charger.


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WOW. Love it

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Originally Posted By @#$%&*!
Originally Posted By 80arrow
Might be a silly question but do you have any idea how much taller it is at the carb base then a LA with a Indy 360-1 intake? Can a person mill the carb base down an 1" or 2"? ...


Probably no more that a foot or two taller. I can't imagine using that tall of an intake on any car of mine, forced induction is a much better way to go. Best overall package would be a bolt-on supercharger. You might need a custom intake manifold to feed it with a Procharger and not be unnecessarily tall. Can you feed a factory intake with a Procharger?


I think that new Eddlebrock intake would be ideal for procharger or a turbo deal.


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Looks great Steve.

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Awesome, how much timing do you run?

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