No, it came from Bad340Fish.

It just shows that if you ask questions and are in the right place at the right time, deals are out there.

I wonder what the "I want to pick up the phone and order that same package of parts" price would be.

Ohhhh boy!!!!!!!!!! Me too. LOL. Or the non Friends cost on some of these W9 heads.

It's a very rare occurance for me to get a phone call from a potential customer where the build plan for the motor has a projected time frame spanning several years.

Usually, they want to know how much, and how soon can I have it?

I don't even try and stay abreast of who has, or where someone might find heads that are no longer produced, or what they cost.

If someone is interested in using head packages built around components that are no longer produced....... I let them do their own homework and price negotiating.

So, from my perspective, I only recommend parts that are "readily available" to anyone, and where there are reasonable quantities available.

MattW would know he has gone down this road. His castings were 1g each with no guides or seats but came CNC ported-thank god. Mr. P-body must not realize that these heads require almost 2k in rockers, W9 intake, W9 headers, You're also not going to put a Ferrea 5000 series valve in a head like this so there's $700 or so in good valves, $300-$400 retainers, $600 good PAC springs, the actual guides, seats, seals, guide installation, guide honing, seat installation, valve job, bowl/throat blending, flow testing (not a one time flow test either), intake porting, head resurfacing to get chambers the way you want. I could go on and on. W9's are bad to the bone for the small wedge but not for a real budget deal. J.Rob [/quote]

Thx Jesse I did want to have to type it. LOL


Mike I'm not saying YOU didn't do your heads for less. I believe you. Mine on the other hand were not cheap. Than again nothing is.
I"LL SAY IT AGAIN. You want cheap a stock set of Apache G3 will flow the same as My CNC ported W9 heads for a lot less. Yes the have their drawbacks by what engines does not?
To the original OP as stated before a set of cast iron will get the job done.
Hell Phone Jesse and see what he has laying around, or what he can get you.
Dollars is at 1.30 exchange so it maybe worth you call.
Matt

All of the things Dwayne mentions add up fast. Thermostat housing and plumbing I machined. Also the valley cover was necessary to machine. J.Rob

Wonder who that belongs to?

Hughes sells a full CNC port Edelbrock RPM set for 3K, then recommends better exhaust valves and milling to correct chamber volume at extra cost. This gets you a 199cc intake port.

Which is why I couldn't understand all the howling when BPE priced his new 205cc heads at 2125 bare. To me that's a comparable head at a competitive price.

I paid 2595 to the door for my AirWolf 220s in 2013 with beehive springs, lock and retainers specified for a .625 lift fast rate of lift solid flat tappet cam. I went this route because it would allow me re-use my headers, 1.5 Crane gold rockers, intake, and valve covers. Then Brian talked me into selling my M-1 and buying an Edelbrock Super Victor, and letting him whittle on it. so like most projects like this, another 500 I wasn't counting on...

Very nice ritter sells the try all machine up how big is the motor and HP did Brett do the heads

If your talking the above engine then
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/this-436ci-small-block-mopar-makes-big-power-on-pump-gas/

A friend has a very well done set of W9 heads that flow over 400...with the ported intake and everything else needed he said it cost 10 grand Canadian for the top end. ( $7500 US )

The W9's might be overkill (or budget kill) for me. What can you get out of a set of ported W2's on a pump gas 408? I've got 11 cars, so I have to kind of spread the funds out a little. The Dart's current 360 has pushed it to a 13.42 @ 100 mph best, but it's pretty tired now, hence the R-block purchase. I'd like to get it in the low 10's so I'd have a chance at qualifying for Street Machine Eliminator if I went for that class.

I had to go back and verify that this truly was the post about a 12 second set-up recommendation......

My choice w8s flat top on pump e85. ..5.60 at 3080lb..

To give you a general idea I have two W-2 engines; one pump gas 340 and one race 380. The 340 dynoed 410 and the 380 was 550. 340 used a .486 lift cam, the 380 was 670/630. The 340 had an old port job probably hurt more than helped. Lol. The 380 is unported but they are 48* heads. I believe to get the best out of regular heads you need a cam between 550 and 600 lift. Hope that helps.

B1MAXX...
That was so two pages ago! We are evolving...or devolving, depending on your perspective.

Umm, Shiloh. I just watched that video. From the time you let go of the trans-brake until you clicked it, the tachometer stayed in my "No-Go" zone. Geez!

W9 447" engine I built.
On dyno yesterday.

Sooooo, from the block on up, not including the carb(we'll say everything between the block and the carb)...... That would be more or less than 6k?

Impressive numbers!!

What kind of dyno?
I'm not used to seeing the print outs in .1 second increments.