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Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart #226312 02/15/09 11:29 PM 02/15/09 11:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 117 @ the shop E E-85 408 DART OP member
E-85 408 DART OP member E Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 117 @ the shop	i like milodon (have ran before on bb)but,remeber some guys saying they run moroso because, the kick-outs on the milodon interfered w/headers .building new motor old headers are cheap hookers w/eddy head 4-speed probaly need to upgrade headers as well "Tappet" lead fabricator for the legendary "Flat & Tappet" race team .

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: E-85 408 DART] #226313 02/15/09 11:48 PM 02/15/09 11:48 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,617 long island NY A Ari440 master
Ari440 master A Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,617 long island NY	1.39 9.85 - 137 mph

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Ari440] #226314 02/16/09 12:01 AM 02/16/09 12:01 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 902 Gilbert, AZ A Aspen7695 super stock
Aspen7695 super stock A Joined: May 2003 Posts: 902 Gilbert, AZ	My Milodon pan hits the K member on my Duster. I've trimmed the Kmember as much as possible but the pan is almost touching it. I have to drop the motor in and then put the pan on. It is a real PITA. If I ever need a pan it will be a Moroso. I ran a Moroso pan on the 340 I had in the Duster and it fit perfectly. I sure wish I would have gotten a Moroso instead of the Milodon when I put the 360 in the car. Raul

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Aspen7695] #226315 02/16/09 12:06 AM 02/16/09 12:06 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,617 long island NY A Ari440 master
Ari440 master A Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,617 long island NY	the K frame is nocthed too on the pass side 1.39 9.85 - 137 mph

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Ari440] #226316 02/16/09 12:18 AM 02/16/09 12:18 AM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 799 north west LA W W2DODGE super stock
W2DODGE super stock W Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 799 north west LA	Get a moroso if you can deal with the pan depth the milidon will require a big notch in the K-member and headder clearance is a big problem with some headders

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Ari440] #226317 02/16/09 12:38 AM 02/16/09 12:38 AM
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E-85 408 DART OP member E Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 117 @ the shop	Quote: anybody have a pic of the moroso i think the milodon hangs pretty low. what header are you guys runing ??? "Tappet" lead fabricator for the legendary "Flat & Tappet" race team .

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: W2DODGE] #226318 02/16/09 12:48 AM 02/16/09 12:48 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego formula S mopar
formula S mopar Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 660 San Diego	We ran headman 1 7/8" w-2 headers and had to notch the k-member to get the engine in and take a hammer to the the pan to get the headers to fit. This is with a milodon pan, because of this I probably wont ever use a milodon pan again. it was a pain.

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: formula S] #226319 02/16/09 01:18 AM 02/16/09 01:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,723 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,723 A collage of whims	Do the Moroso pans still have the drain plug on the bottom where it can be hit? I used a Milodon wide-bottom like the one on Ari's car on my 406" street Duster; had to notch the K about 1" x 1", and for the headers, had to clearance the left rear corner at the bottom (widest part) about 1.5" x 1.5". But I think it's a better pan, becaue it holds more oil lower (away from the crank). I never scraped either the pan or the headers. I've also had to notch the K on other cars with just a deep sump pan similar to the Moroso.

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: topside] #226320 02/16/09 10:17 AM 02/16/09 10:17 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	I ran a Milodon on my 340 with TTI headers with no issues, only the small notch in the k-member. My 408 will have one also but with the Heddman 1 7/8" headers it required some work. I already had the 360 pan or I'd looked at a Kevco (sp). 5029082-IMG_1749.JPG (175 downloads)

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Ari440] #226321 02/16/09 11:50 AM 02/16/09 11:50 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,000 Tampa Florida dc426 gotta keep'm separated
dc426 gotta keep'm separated Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,000 Tampa Florida	I like the charlies pan. No problems what so ever. However, Mancini has this aluminum pan that looks good. DC http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/chucker54_2042_57441482

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: dc426] #226322 02/16/09 12:57 PM 02/16/09 12:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA J JC Childress mopar
JC Childress mopar J Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 411 Big Island ,VA	I have a brand new Charlies steel pan that I had built when I was gonna run Top Stock. Its a super nice pan. Its never been on an engine. I had it powdercoated black. It has a nice kickout, but hey....thats free horsepower ! I can email a pic if you want one. My email is brmbb74@aol.com I'll take $300. for it ( way less than I payed ). Its for a 360. I have used pan for a 340 thats aluminum that I'll take $200. for if ya want it. Its also a Charlies pan. J.C. Childress (434) 665-9541

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Ari440] #226323 02/16/09 01:11 PM 02/16/09 01:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	I'm using the Milodon 8 qt. because it is a bit shallower (but wider) than the Moroso and the coating is much nicer and much more durable. The K-frame notch on the passenger side should provide plenty of clearance if enough of the "lip" is cut out. It's about a 1 1/2" triangle and it doesn't cause me any intallation problems with the pan on. The header clearance issues is not Milodon's fault. Most header manufacturers have a footnote on the issue. I know Hedman does and I found out the hard way long ago when trying to use their 1 7/8" headers. But I have been running TTI headers and they fit and work great. (Don't need a 90* oil adapter either!) I'm not sure if their newer 7qt. version clear the other headers or not. But it wouldn't hurt to call Milodon and/or the header manufacturers & ask. The Moroso 360 pans still have the drain on the bottom and I ripped it out many years ago when a tire dropped off the pavement on a return road when giving room to a jr. dragster.

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: JC Childress] #226324 02/16/09 01:26 PM 02/16/09 01:26 PM
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11secdart master 1 Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,973 new jersey usa	Moroso, I have 2 of them one on my W2 motor and one on my broken 340. Both work good. I had the Milodom S/S pan years ago but got tired of taking the suspension apart every time I took the motor out and the other Milodon pan kicks out to far and would hit my headers. 5029432-CCEventsPhotoGallery-PittDSC_0054-PoweredbyPhotoPost.mht (83 downloads) 68 Dart 410 / 904 92 D150 original owner 21 Ram 1500 Quad Cab, Big Horn , Hemi ,4x4 23 Audi Q5 16 Honda HRV

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: 11secdart] #226325 02/16/09 05:07 PM 02/16/09 05:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA Jeepmon master
Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	I'm currently running the Kevko oil pan.. cheap, fits great and has built in windage and crank scraper.. http://www.kevko.net/ 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Jeepmon] #226326 02/16/09 06:05 PM 02/16/09 06:05 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,528 Mansfield, Tx Jacob Pitt master
Jacob Pitt master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,528 Mansfield, Tx	Quote: I'm currently running the Kevko oil pan.. cheap, fits great and has built in windage and crank scraper.. http://www.kevko.net/ Which pan are you using? Did you have to use their pickup? 2013 NHRA D4 Stock Champ #4 in the World IHRA Stock 2x IHRA Div.4 Stock Champ 14x Track Champ All using a Ultimate Converter Concepts converter. Call Lenny today 704-892-6837

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Jacob Pitt] #226327 02/16/09 06:13 PM 02/16/09 06:13 PM
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DemonDust master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,207 Menomonee Falls	I like the moroso 8 qt. Had it in my duster. No clearance probs at all. No cutting the k frame. I had 4 speed with tti headers. SDG Motorsports Hellcat Demon and Redeye Supercharger CNC Porting https://www.sdgmotorsports.com/

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Jeepmon] #226328 02/16/09 06:46 PM 02/16/09 06:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England Gavin top fuel
Gavin top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England	Quote: I'm currently running the Kevko oil pan.. cheap, fits great and has built in windage and crank scraper.. I don't suppose you have a pic of the inside of that pan???

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Jeepmon] #226329 02/16/09 08:33 PM 02/16/09 08:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 171 Columbus, OH redruM member
redruM member Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 171 Columbus, OH	Quote: I'm currently running the Kevko oil pan.. cheap, fits great and has built in windage and crank scraper.. http://www.kevko.net/ Which one are you running? I was going to run a charlies pan, but these are way cheaper.

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: E-85 408 DART] #226330 02/16/09 08:36 PM 02/16/09 08:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 989 Rather be in Fallon, Nevada R RussW super gas
RussW super gas R Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 989 Rather be in Fallon, Nevada	Don't get me started on Milodon

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Jacob Pitt] #226331 02/17/09 12:05 AM 02/17/09 12:05 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA Jeepmon master
Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	Quote: Which pan are you using? Did you have to use their pickup? Back when I bought my pan, they only offered one pan for the 360.. Now, I see they offer several different pans The Pan I have is the M302.. and yes, you have to run their pickup tube.. M301-1 Here is a thread I created way back when I installed the pan.. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post4201108 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Jeepmon] #226332 02/17/09 08:34 AM 02/17/09 08:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England Gavin top fuel
Gavin top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England	Quote: Here is a thread I created way back when I installed the pan.. Excellent, don't know how I missed that, thanks for the link. Do you recall what the pickup inside dia was? Just wondering if it was larger than stock like the Milodon/Moroso (one of them at least). In another thread, it was mentioned that just drilling out the inside of the threaded part got a full 1/2" pickup all the way - something I would like.

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Gavin] #226333 02/17/09 09:45 AM 02/17/09 09:45 AM
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dizuster master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	Will this car see street duty? If so, even with the need to notch the K-frame, go with the Milidon. They are much shallower, so you don't have to worry about smashing it like a moroso... my

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: Gavin] #226334 02/17/09 08:17 PM 02/17/09 08:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA Jeepmon master
Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	Quote: In another thread, it was mentioned that just drilling out the inside of the threaded part got a full 1/2" pickup all the way - something I would like. I suppose you could drill out the inside, but I havent noticed any need to do so.. 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: dizuster] #226335 02/17/09 10:39 PM 02/17/09 10:39 PM
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E-85 408 DART OP member E Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 117 @ the shop	Quote: Will this car see street duty? If so, even with the need to notch the K-frame, go with the Milidon. They are much shallower, so you don't have to worry about smashing it like a moroso... my yes mostly steet . plan is milodon and tti's unless you guy say.no way "Tappet" lead fabricator for the legendary "Flat & Tappet" race team .

Re: Moroso or Milodon ??360 oil pan for dart [Re: E-85 408 DART] #226336 02/18/09 02:02 PM 02/18/09 02:02 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA Jeepmon master
Jeepmon master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 8,094 Sunnyvale, CA	Quote: yes mostly steet . plan is milodon and tti's unless you guy say.no way I doubt anyone on here will ever say "NO, you cant run a particular part".. Its your car and you can do what you want... Milodon is a good pan and the only complaint us Small Block guys have is the need to grind on the K frame.. I ran the Milodon pan for the first few years and never had a problem.. so I'm sure you wont either.. 73 Duster 360 stroker http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2594657

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