Who is wizard?

Down flow will work very well.

If your core support was for a 22 inch radiator you will have to cut it up a bit to get a 26 inch in there. You are always better off with the biggest radiator you can fit in there.

In my 70RR with a built 440, I took the original Mopar OE radiator to a local guy. He ordered a new modine core, and built me a new radiator using my OE top/bottom tanks. Looks OE and works great keeps the 440 kool <200 degrees in the SoCal heat..

Just my $0.02...

I have an ECP in my Demon

Wizard cooling. Good products but a little more expense.

which one do you have and what are you cooling? anyone on here cooling a 500"+ BB in an A body with a mechanical pump and fan?

Be careful. That wizard radiator is the EXACT same radiator as the ECP. EXACTLY the same just more money.

It is the exact same drawing. It even has the overflow going the wrong way just like the ECP.

looking at the pictures I thought the very same thing. I'm gonna call them in a bit here just to pick there brain. A friend of mine has a wizard in a dart with a 440 SB and he cant say enough good about it. hes very happy. It is a 2 row down flow.

Check it out and see what they say. The Wizard is more than double the price for what appears to be the very same thing from EPC.
Your friend may be pissed when and if he finds out he could have paid less than half for the same thing.




FWIW and IIRC there are very few companies actually building aluminum radiators. Most of these guys are buying kits from China and are welding them up. Some even have the balls to say made in USA on the stuff. Some stuff is China made China welded.

Always verify and cross check everything and everyone.

just got off the phone with wizard. They think they can get it done with a 22" core down flow but with 1.25 tube upgrade.

They are probably right about that. It would make it easier to mount if the car has a 22 inch core support rather than try and cut and for a 26 in there.

Bigger tube is always better.

How much is the rad with the upgrade.

From wizard the rad. Is 489 and the 1.25 tube up grade is another 100. Im sure i can do this thru mcp or ecp for under 500 total.

How much??

Close to $600 just for radiator.

Just read a post on forabodys about the griffin and ecp radiators and they had issues with fitment and hose fitting sizes. Either that guy needs a new hobby or he got a f'ed up radiator for his A body. Ecp still has my interest thou.

Get a $200 Howe cross flow and go with a electric fan set up, HHR. For what your doing I wouldn't pay $600 bucs for a rad. JMO.

I have one now and i was not that impressed. Fittings are on wrong sides. For sale with an electric fan. The ecp was 500 with the 1.25 tube up grade.

Fittings on the wrong side?? Well order the correct rad from them with the fittings on the correct side. My tubes are like 1", maybe 1.25" didn't measure them. No upgrades here.

From the looks of the ECP and the Wizard, they look equally cheap as well. No way, I'm paying $600 for any of those. Other posters stated they are exactly the same rad.????

Glad you haven't bought anything yet. Your doing Good by doing your research.

Might be good enough,

yep, I see that' about $100 less than the wizard. The howe is a 2 row maybe 1" rows cross flow. I used it with a 16" electric fan and moroso electric water pump. keep the temp about 195-200* in cool weather. 80*+ and temps would climb. stop and go traffic it would go 220+. I like the idea of the 1.25 tube down flow. learning a lot here, thanks guys