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Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: astjp2] #2246090
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Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: RylisPro] #2246346
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In tension, if the loads are in the direction of the fiber, that's ideal and yes the fibers would take up the majority of the loads. If the loads are perpendicular to the fibers, then the resin takes up the majority of the load. If you all want to calculate tensile and bending loads at different angle plies, pick up the books "Mechanics of Composite Materials." One author's last name is Jones and the other is Kaw. Two different, but similar books.

Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: RylisPro] #2246353
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Good discussion with the CF theory and application!
Although some of it is just beyond my feeble mind haha!

What matters to me is 3 things:
A. Can carbon fiber fenders be leaned on like metal fenders when you are working on the engine?

2. Can carbon doors be slammed shut repeatedly like a metal door and not break in to millions of little carcinogenic pieces?

D. If both statements above are indeed true, is anyone else besides SpeedKore going to make good fitting carbon parts so I can figure out who to send money to?

Thanks!



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Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: RylisPro] #2246361
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Originally Posted By RylisPro
Good discussion with the CF theory and application!
Although some of it is just beyond my feeble mind haha!

What matters to me is 3 things:
A. Can carbon fiber fenders be leaned on like metal fenders when you are working on the engine?

2. Can carbon doors be slammed shut repeatedly like a metal door and not break in to millions of little carcinogenic pieces?

D. If both statements above are indeed true, is anyone else besides SpeedKore going to make good fitting carbon parts so I can figure out who to send money to?

Thanks!



A. I would imagine leaning on it would be similar to a fiberglass quarter. It really depends on how the panel is mounted, made, how thick it is, etc.

2. I haven't seen or played with a fiberglass door and haven't wrapped my brain around designing one. I'd imagine a new latching system would be in order and I wouldn't necessarily slam it shut.

D. As far as I know, no one makes CF parts for our mopars besides SpeedKore unless it's custom.

Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: MuuMuu101] #2246486
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Originally Posted By MuuMuu101
Originally Posted By RylisPro
Good discussion with the CF theory and application!
Although some of it is just beyond my feeble mind haha!

What matters to me is 3 things:
A. Can carbon fiber fenders be leaned on like metal fenders when you are working on the engine?

2. Can carbon doors be slammed shut repeatedly like a metal door and not break in to millions of little carcinogenic pieces?

D. If both statements above are indeed true, is anyone else besides SpeedKore going to make good fitting carbon parts so I can figure out who to send money to?

Thanks!



A. I would imagine leaning on it would be similar to a fiberglass quarter. It really depends on how the panel is mounted, made, how thick it is, etc.

2. I haven't seen or played with a fiberglass door and haven't wrapped my brain around designing one. I'd imagine a new latching system would be in order and I wouldn't necessarily slam it shut.

D. As far as I know, no one makes CF parts for our mopars besides SpeedKore unless it's custom.


IMO:

a. same relative thickness, quality, construction, YES, and as it is the intended purpose to be equal or stronger, even if one is built like Tiny Lund grin
b. need to address this early, nothing yet indicates CF has any proclivities towards being carcinogenic, yet, unless fine grinding powder/dust, which can be said for almost all materials, FG, concrete, PT wood, etc, so not a concern of mine. Biggest shortcoming of CF, is it can fracture internally/unseen and undetectable, big problem for high performance aircraft with CF construction, not a problem us.
c. I believe there will be a slow supply develops, as prices are high enough to get vendor interest, and that will come down as they realize its not that tough of a product to get out the door, and market competition develops. The good fitting aspect is inherent in the CF and epoxy,ie the post cure shrinkage and real world temp sensitivity attributes are inherent in CF vs FG/resin. Mold quality is still vendor based. twocents


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: jcc] #2246714
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c. I believe there will be a slow supply develops, as prices are high enough to get vendor interest, and that will come down as they realize its not that tough of a product to get out the door, and market competition develops. The good fitting aspect is inherent in the CF and epoxy,ie the post cure shrinkage and real world temp sensitivity attributes are inherent in CF vs FG/resin. Mold quality is still vendor based. twocents


Yeah I hope this all plays out. As tempting as it is to lose 150 lbs. the cost is still way too high and I really didn't want to be the first sucker to try these new CF parts out haha! Hopefully competiton will drive the prices down. Might have to wait a while for that though. Still able to have plenty of fun with metal body parts in the meantime!


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Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: RylisPro] #2246878
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FWIW, anything I build a mold for, I will sell reasonably after I have finished the project and have backups. Problem is, I would not consider my molds perfect quality, nor robust enough for long production runs, so no commercial resale value. I don't mind touch ups on my finished piece, since making a perfect mold can be costly and time consuming. I also think it could only help the hobby rather, then them collecting dust in the loft. Downside, most of my cars our not mainstream Mopars. eek


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Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: RylisPro] #2246912
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Originally Posted By RylisPro

Yeah I hope this all plays out. As tempting as it is to lose 150 lbs. the cost is still way too high and I really didn't want to be the first sucker to try these new CF parts out haha! Hopefully competiton will drive the prices down. Might have to wait a while for that though. Still able to have plenty of fun with metal body parts in the meantime!



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Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: RylisPro] #2246920
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I thought Rylis did that as a joke!

Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: Jjs72D] #2246929
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Originally Posted By Jjs72D
Nobody else caught questions #
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I thought Rylis did that as a joke!


I did. I just played with it.

Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: MuuMuu101] #2246936
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There would be more competition if more people actually tracked their Mopars haha!

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is a Home Alone reference haha!


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Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: RylisPro] #2246942
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Ya forgot the 'PERIOD!'. laugh2 hop


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Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: Jjs72D] #2247014
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Originally Posted By Jjs72D
Nobody else caught questions #
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D ??? wave

I thought Rylis did that as a joke!


I'm pretty sure I didn't get it the first time. eek laugh2


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Re: SpeedKore Carbon Fiber 1970 `Cuda & Charger parts [Re: RylisPro] #2247042
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Funny bit.There are lots of people that never see the details. I like details.

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