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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233046
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Dodge will release it at the New York Auto
Show.. it will make more power than the Hell
Cats 707hp
wave

It's already been said by insiders on the Hellcat fourm. It will have more then the current hc
This demon car is not to be confused with the adr (American drag racer) to be out in aug. That car has 981 hp. 883 to back tires and 188 lighter then current cat and in testing run 1/4 in high 9s (showroom stock)
Help from a drag radial tire(315) a whipple and less weight)

This demon car is have more then current also. But the demon and adr is 2 differnt cars


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: CJD AUTOMOTIVE] #2233049
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Originally Posted By CJD AUTOMOTIVE
Some of you guys would find something to [censored] about if they were giving stuff away free. You same people have obviously never driven a Hellcat. My shop works on a does upgrades to late model Chrysler products, so let me give you an example. Have a customer we built a 426 Gen3 with a Magnuson supercharger in a 2012 SRT Challenger. Made just shy of 800 on pump gas. Yes it makes more power than the Hellcat. It is almost undriveable and I promise you, you will wreck this car unless your 100% focused at all times and very conscious of the throttle. Yes it's fast at the track, but pretty worthless at everything else. The Hellcat, by comparison, can be driven by your grandmother. It drives just like a 3.6 car until you don't want it to. That's all that "new fangled computer stuff" you all hate. That is the only thing that even makes it possible to sell cars like these. Can't even count how many GEN 2 Vipers came back wrecked just days or hours after being sold. That was with less power than a SRT, but no "computer assisted driver aids". So yes you can build something with more power cheaper, but I promise you it will suck to drive and be almost unusable in everyday driving situations. Be thankful that these kind of cars are being made available, and would lay waste to anything pre-73! Hell, my Hemi and diesel trucks are faster than most pre-'73 stuff, way more comfortable, and require damn near zero maintenance. If these new vehicle are just transportation, I'll take it. I'll leave the no overdrive, drum brake cars at the parking lot with a lawn chair sitting in front of them...


That right there is a fact. Having have a built 2nd gen hemi in a challenger and sold it for a cat. There is night and day differance


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233054
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Reading all these post. I love my 70 cudas and will never sell them. But
Driving the cat around town. Stop light to stop light is a blast. Just blip the gas and lit em up shove ya way back into the seat but then can pull off on a on ramp and do a 200 mile trip in comfort (ice cold ac) and get 21 mpg
All wich could never be done with our old cars
And now just a few months from a car with 19 hp less of a 1000hp being released with a vin and a warrenty. (Not the demon) We live in some awsome times


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: toplescuda] #2233065
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At 60 years old I'm to old to impress the girls and to old to go to jail, and trust me I would end up in jail. I was kicking around the idea of making my green duster street legal but came to my senses. I proved what I had to on the streets years ago and to this day guys still remember so I will keep my going fast on the track and drive my slow 2006 Chevy Malibu and dodge diesel on the streets. I did buy a Honda Delsol years ago that was fun to drive.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Thumperdart] #2233069
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I prefer the "chicks" that like it rough and don't need all of the creature comforts who aren't scared their face mask, I mean make up won't smear...............

So you prefer an automatic TRANNY?





Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By STEFF
These new cars are bad ass and I will not call them junk. They exceed the old iron by a long shot. To have those amenaties and power for a daily driver would be great. Will I ever own one? No. I cant bring myself to spend the money on new cars these days. I love driving my Road Runner. If I'm out screwing around, give me the Runner. If I were to be going on a 250 mile road trip with my Chick in the summer when its 90 degrees out, give me the new car with the amenaties and power.


I prefer the "chicks" that like it rough and don't need all of the creature comforts who aren't scared their face mask, I mean make up won't smear...............

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233078
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I feel like I'm qualified properly respond to this since I have a 9 second 1962 street car, and a 2016 scat pack challenger (measly 485hp). I don’t know how many street “blasts” or ¼ mile runs I have in my life, but I’m sure enough to qualify that I don’t “suck” as a driver.

That being said… the 485hp on regular street tires with the traction control off will get you in trouble in a hurry. I can’t imagine what 707hp or more is like in the same car. You have to be really careful with the car even if you know what you’re doing… You’re kidding yourself if you think the 9 second car on caltracs, 275 drag radials, and drag shocks is harder to drive then 707hp on 275 rock hard street tires, with suspension setup to take corners.

This morning I got up for work, hit the remote start button to warm it up. It fired up with a sweet sounding “whoummmm”… then the idle came down and it quieted back up. Finished getting my coffee and walked outside. Car sensed I had the keys in my pocket, and unlocked the door as soon as I touched the door handle. Hopped in it, and the heated steering wheel and seats were nice and warm. Backed out through the snow and ice with no problems, and took off to work. Wife called, and I picked it up through the hands free phone without taking my hands off the wheel. Got off the phone with her, and then my buddy text me which the car read to me through the speakers. I then responded through the built in microphone, again without taking my hands off the wheel. Then a kick ass song came on the radio, which I turned up (again without taking my hands off the wheel) jammed with my Alpine 9 speaker system as I pulled into work. Romped on the throttle through the s-turns a bit, making a bunch of noise when the computer controlled electric cutouts in the exhaust opened up. Sliding around the corner, the traction control turned on when it started getting loose and calmed things down.

Pulled into the parking space, and walked in smiling thinking about my warranty.

That is the $40~50k experience that a 11.90 340 duster doesn’t have… but with the same timeslip…

For everything these cars lack in drag race ET potential, they certainly make up in other areas. Top speed on my challenger is around 175-180mph. No WAY is my ’62 going to touch that. It’s been 142mph at the track, and it’s about out of gear. I have NO fear to drive the challenger in rain/snow, but I’d be scared to death to get caught in the rain on a warm summer day with the 275 pro’s on my ’62. They are just not the same thing…these cars are built to be driven all year round, and last for a long time while being abused. I know FOR SURE, I can’t say the same thing for my 9 second muscle…

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233082
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This new Demon car has them all shaken up at Hellcat.org. Mostly it's the " I can't believe I am not top dog anymore" syndrome lol.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: ProSport] #2233084
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Originally Posted By ProSport
Originally Posted By SCATPACK 1
I always said I would never have one of the new cars either. Until my wife brought one home one day and I drove it. Man it is nice and runs decent for a base RT. IF I had the $$ I would buy one of the Demons in a heartbeat. that video reminds me of the 69 1/2 six pack cars for some reason. Built to rule on the strip and street from the factory show rooms.


Same here, never thought I'd want a new car til I drove a new ScatPack last summer, what a blast. Made my big block Duster feel like a pile of crap lol.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233085
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People forget these are production line cars, what did our old pos cars run off the line.

Alot of misguided people in our mopar world, it seems.

You could take your new chally run it at a track, drive 12 hours and run the same time at the next track day after day after day from new york to cali, dealer warranty work, 100k miles is just stretching its legs.

We used to call people stuck in the past.... just old, now id say foolishly old.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Porter67] #2233088
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Originally Posted By EV2Bird
I prefer the "chicks" that like it rough and don't need all of the creature comforts who aren't scared their face mask, I mean make up won't smear...............

So you prefer an automatic TRANNY?





Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By STEFF
These new cars are bad ass and I will not call them junk. They exceed the old iron by a long shot. To have those amenaties and power for a daily driver would be great. Will I ever own one? No. I cant bring myself to spend the money on new cars these days. I love driving my Road Runner. If I'm out screwing around, give me the Runner. If I were to be going on a 250 mile road trip with my Chick in the summer when its 90 degrees out, give me the new car with the amenaties and power.


I prefer the "chicks" that like it rough and don't need all of the creature comforts who aren't scared their face mask, I mean make up won't smear...............



work tsk Didn't say I was gay...........let's set up a race then w/these so called modern "Muscle Cars" w/gobs of power at the rollers and see what happens just for kicks. My $15,000 dated junk against a $70,000+ dollar trophy car.........I'm game...........

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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Porter67] #2233089
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Originally Posted By EV2Bird
People forget these are production line cars, what did our old pos cars run off the line.



Even Chrysler's new minivan the Pacifica will run a 15.1 @ 92 MPH. Compare that to the times of the stock musclecars back in the day and it would probably be right in the mix until you get to the Hemis and 6 Packs.

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Ok, my bad.... didnt understand the face mask stuff.

Im sure a modded hellcat owner from nyc would drive half way to run ya, if you can make that trip from cali, to say indy?

Heck, just keepem hot so yall can run right off the interstate.

The hellcat owner might let ya get some ac time in as well in the passenger seat.




Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By EV2Bird
I prefer the "chicks" that like it rough and don't need all of the creature comforts who aren't scared their face mask, I mean make up won't smear...............

So you prefer an automatic TRANNY?





Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By STEFF
These new cars are bad ass and I will not call them junk. They exceed the old iron by a long shot. To have those amenaties and power for a daily driver would be great. Will I ever own one? No. I cant bring myself to spend the money on new cars these days. I love driving my Road Runner. If I'm out screwing around, give me the Runner. If I were to be going on a 250 mile road trip with my Chick in the summer when its 90 degrees out, give me the new car with the amenaties and power.


I prefer the "chicks" that like it rough and don't need all of the creature comforts who aren't scared their face mask, I mean make up won't smear...............



work tsk Didn't say I was gay...........let's set up a race then w/these so called modern "Muscle Cars" w/gobs of power at the rollers and see what happens just for kicks. My $15,000 dated junk against a $70,000+ dollar trophy car.........I'm game...........

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233092
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In the flying mile you'd be toast.

Your to old to change, you think technology is a bad thing because it passed you by.

9 second cars are slow by today's street cars. Around here you can see 7 second cars at rod runs every weekend. And a hellcat gets as much attention as any of the older cars .

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Originally Posted By FastmOp
In the flying mile you'd be toast.

Your to old to change, you think technology is a bad thing because it passed you by.

9 second cars are slow by today's street cars. Around here you can see 7 second cars at rod runs every weekend. And a hellcat gets as much attention as any of the older cars .



haha Now it's a standing mile..........I'm going to go work on carbs now..........been a pleasure........... catfight


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Im done too, the wife just told me to stop giving folks a hard time.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233116
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In the 1/4 they are within a few cars of you lmao.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Thumperdart] #2233118
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
..........I'm going to go work on carbs now.........catfight


I think my lawn mower still has one of those...


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I hope the new Demon has a Super Stock rear spring option.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2233148
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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: FastmOp] #2233161
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
In the flying mile you'd be toast.

Your to old to change, you think technology is a bad thing because it passed you by.

9 second cars are slow by today's street cars. Around here you can see 7 second cars at rod runs every weekend. And a hellcat gets as much attention as any of the older cars .


how many NATURALLY ASPIRATED 9 second cars show up??? you left out that little bit of info.


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