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Installed Fuel cell pics? #223030
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Looking for ideas for installation, top and bottom pics if you have them. Thanks.

Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: 10sec440] #223031
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I made mine, internal baffles, built in sump, made to fit the space I had...
(just welded, the welds looked ugly before being cleaned, sorry! lol)

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Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #223033
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Nice job, I edited the topic because I was looking for installation ideas.Thanks for the quick reply!

Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #223034
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Just packed in tight and clean . 8 gallon, wish
I would of went 16.

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Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: 10sec440] #223035
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Mine sits on the frame rails with the flanges, I made it so that the sump is below the frame rails.
I made the 45 degree edge at the bottom front of the cell for exhaust, the tailpipes wouldn't fit without it.

Are you thinking of an aluminum cell?

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Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #223037
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haha, I recognise that camper...from somewhere!!! Nice install. I had a 5 gal plastic tank and I pulled it out to check on a leak. I figured for what it's worth I would replace it as it's been in the car for 14 years. Now it's getting out of hand, I'm thinking of changing to a 10 gal and re-doing my trunk floor.

Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #223038
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you made your own?! hmm...sounds cheaper than buying one for $200!

How thick is that metal? I don't have a tig, or any other set up to weld aluminum, could I make one from mild steel?


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Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: BDS871Cuda] #223039
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Just packed in tight and clean . 8 gallon, wish
I would of went 16.




Hrrm that would be my car in the pic ???

Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: FY1TA] #223040
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Here's a few pics for you. I had a custom alum cell made to fit where my plastic one was. it's about 15 gallons.

Old brackets for the plastic 12 gallon cell.

I had some brackets welded to the alum cell so I could use the same tabs the straps used.

I don't have any good pics from the bottom. It's covered with a belly pan in the car. Here's a completed pic.



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Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: Bigcube] #223041
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I had to remove the existing plastic fuel cell, and had an aluminum one fabbed to fit the same hole. Before I could have the flanges welded on, it all had to be test fitted to get it right. I had to remove the hold down for the factory jack, as well as the raised section for the gas neck filler tube, then, I determined the leafs were a little too close to leave it square on the bottom, and it had to be sectioned again...Then it was alll fitted up and I redid the entire trunck area.













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Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: Dragula] #223042
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Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: 70Cuda383] #223043
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you made your own?! hmm...sounds cheaper than buying one for $200!

How thick is that metal? I don't have a tig, or any other set up to weld aluminum, could I make one from mild steel?




I used 12ga aluminum, I still have a large piece...... I don't have an aluminum TIG welder either, I just made all the pieces and went to a buddy of mine who has an aluminum TIG welder.

I didn't do it for cost, I wanted the biggest cell I could fit, and I wanted exact shape, dimensions, baffles etc..

I like Dragula's cell with the built in pump, I assume the pump would be quieter submerged...?


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Re: Installed Fuel cell pics? [Re: 10sec440] #223044
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Here's what I did.....

The fuel cell mounting straps,I made from aluminum stock that I bought from Home Depot and bent them myself.The mail order shops wanted $25 for the same thing.Underneath the cell,there is 1" square steel tubing that the straps mount to,and they are the length of the cell.

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Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: 10sec440] #223045
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I just used fuel tank straps, they go fore and aft
bolted to a cross bar on both ends of the tank. I
used what was handy, since I worked in the fuel lab
thats what I used...straps both top and bottom
sorry no pics
EDIT
Mine looks very much like Bigcubes

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Re: Installed Fuel cell pics? [Re: Chris2581] #223046
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My old setup was a steel tub like Dragula's last pic and it had a plastic tank in it like Chris2412's and straps I made. The new setup, I bought an RCI 10 gal aluminum tank like Dragula's upper pic and I was going to sink it into the floor the same as in his pic. There are tabs on the side and they have to go to a tube frame. Does there have to be a bottom on it to be legal? (being an aluminum tank)

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My old setup was a steel tub like Dragula's last pic and it had a plastic tank in it like Chris2412's and straps I made. The new setup, I bought an RCI 10 gal aluminum tank like Dragula's upper pic and I was going to sink it into the floor the same as in his pic. There are tabs on the side and they have to go to a tube frame. Does there have to be a bottom on it to be legal? (being an aluminum tank)




I dont have my book in front of me but if I recall
correctly you need a skid plate IF the bottom hangs
below the frame rail
EDIT
if the floor has been re worked.... check the book

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Re: Installed Fuel cell pics? [Re: torredcuda] #223050
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I've built both of mine. I use s/s though. I just kinda figure it's a little extra added weight behind the axles.

Heres the one I had in the Cuda.. I welded angles to the front and back of the cell that had holes drilled into them. I then had a seperate angle with holes matched drilled that was held to the framerails as cross members. Notice the 3/4" bolt heads. I just measured it so that I was happy with the height that was exposed in the trunk..Then welded the angle to the cell.





Heres the one I built for the Dak. On this one I used straps that support the weight of the cell from underneath and just added top straps to help hold it in place. I wanted this one to be flush with the bed floor..














When I build these I add 1/4" rod on the inside from the sides to the bottom so there is no "ballooning". Then I leak check them {thats why you see the red color}. Then I weld the top on. I also add fuel cell foam.

The Cuda cell was 20 gallons and the one for the Dak is 16. I generally make the bottom and the sump section from 1/8" or 11 ga. and the sides and top are made from 16 ga.

As I read in the rulebook, as long as the s/s cell is grounded to the frame, it should be good. I haven't used a skid plate or shield on either and both have passed tech at the tracks I've been to. I guess with an aluminum or plastic cell, they need to have the steel pan to sit in..



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Re: Installed Fuel cell pics? [Re: KatFysh] #223051
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Another thing I still never got a concrete answer on...
Does the top of the fuel cell have to be below the height of the top of the tire?

I always thought this was the rule, so I made mine that way, I could have had more fuel capacity but I thought it wasn't legal.

Was it a rule, is it a rule, or did they drop that rule...?? Anybody know?


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Re: Installed Fuel cell pics? [Re: T748] #223054
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Re: Installed Fuel cell pics? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #223055
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Another thing I still never got a concrete answer on...
Does the top of the fuel cell have to be below the height of the top of the tire?

I always thought this was the rule, so I made mine that way, I could have had more fuel capacity but I thought it wasn't legal.

Was it a rule, is it a rule, or did they drop that rule...?? Anybody know?




I've never heard that rule. But coincidentally I guess, both of mine have had the fuel cell tops below the top of the tire. So I guess thats a good thing??!!!



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Just packed in tight and clean . 8 gallon, wish
I would of went 16.


I have a 5 gallon cell in my race car and that seems like plenty to me. If you do any street driving I can see wanting a bigger capacity.

I mean, how many rounds do you need to go without refueling? A 7 round race with round robin after 3rd round only needs to go another 4 passes on a full tank.


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Re: Fuel cell pics? [Re: 440Jim] #223057
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Re: Installed Fuel cell pics? [Re: KatFysh] #223058
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Another thing I still never got a concrete answer on...
Does the top of the fuel cell have to be below the height of the top of the tire?

I always thought this was the rule, so I made mine that way, I could have had more fuel capacity but I thought it wasn't legal.

Was it a rule, is it a rule, or did they drop that rule...?? Anybody know?




I've never heard that rule. But coincidentally I guess, both of mine have had the fuel cell tops below the top of the tire. So I guess thats a good thing??!!!




IHRA rulebook does require the fuel cell to be below the top of the wheelwells.

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