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Had a pretty good streak of luck until lastnight #222263
02/12/09 04:48 PM
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Been trying to get the car out to the track for the last several weeks. The last time out (1 month ago) the computers went down and the track had to shut down. Since then a couple of the nights were so cold they canceled TnT.

So last night was pretty nice weather wise. Made my first pass and the car was off ET and MPH somewhat. Enough so to make me wonder what was up. Second pass I did my burnout and the starter stopped me because the guy ahead looked like he was coasting to a stop on the track. I backed up and waited. Got the go ahead and started to do another burnout(start in 2nd always and hit third and power out), this time nothing. it wouldn't spin the tires. I backed up, put it in 1st then 2nd and tried again. this time I heard a loud pop. I backed up and drove back to the pits in 1st and loaded up. No fluid or anything weird looking.

Today I put it up on jack stands and tried to go through the gears. It appears as if there is no 2nd or 3rd gears. It will go in first and reverse. I didn't pull the pan yet cause I didn't have the time to get into it.

What does this sound like to you?
DC

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Re: Had a pretty good streak of luck until lastnight [Re: dc426] #222265
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Just guessing......something broke and has the low/reverse band
jammed or the over-running clutch failed.

Re: Had a pretty good streak of luck until lastnight #222266
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Been trying to get the car out to the track for the last several weeks. The last time out (1 month ago) the computers went down and the track had to shut down. Since then a couple of the nights were so cold they canceled TnT.

So last night was pretty nice weather wise. Made my first pass and the car was off ET and MPH somewhat. Enough so to make me wonder what was up. Second pass I did my burnout and the starter stopped me because the guy ahead looked like he was coasting to a stop on the track. I backed up and waited. Got the go ahead and started to do another burnout(start in 2nd always and hit third and power out), this time nothing. it wouldn't spin the tires. I backed up, put it in 1st then 2nd and tried again. this time I heard a loud pop. I backed up and drove back to the pits in 1st and loaded up. No fluid or anything weird looking.

Today I put it up on jack stands and tried to go through the gears. It appears as if there is no 2nd or 3rd gears. It will go in first and reverse. I didn't pull the pan yet cause I didn't have the time to get into it.

What does this sound like to you?
DC


Bad news. I had the strut for the frt band break acted alot like what yours is doing.




Re: Had a pretty good streak of luck until lastnight [Re: dc426] #222267
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"What does this sound like to you?"
Sounds like you broke the trans...
really that sucks dude, I hope you get it figured out and fixed soon. I lost the gov'ner on a 69 charger once, all I had was 1st and Rev but no loud bang like you heard.

Re: Had a pretty good streak of luck until lastnight [Re: Mr.Yuck] #222268
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I've seen the front band strut fall out, but it still had 3rd .

Re: Had a pretty good streak of luck until lastnight [Re: RemCharger] #222269
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I had that happen to me before and it ended up being the snap ring holding the clutch pack in broke and fell out.Made a mess of the trans and converter.Hope this is not what you have going on.

Re: Had a pretty good streak of luck until lastnight [Re: RemCharger] #222270
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your still lucky.it didnt come through the floor, and still drove on to the trailer.

WILD BILL TO THE BLUE COURTESY PHONE !! [Re: 71cudaddict] #222271
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your still lucky.it didnt come through the floor, and still drove on to the trailer.




Amen, shes got a boo boo..pull it out time !


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Re: WILD BILL TO THE BLUE COURTESY PHONE !! [Re: bigdad] #222272
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your still lucky.it didnt come through the floor, and still drove on to the trailer.




got that right! That was my very first thought before I put it in reverse and backed out of the box.
DC

Re: WILD BILL TO THE BLUE COURTESY PHONE !! [Re: dc426] #222273
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your still lucky.it didnt come through the floor, and still drove on to the trailer.




got that right! That was my very first thought before I put it in reverse and backed out of the box.
DC




Sorry to highjack when someone mentioned it could have broken and went through the floor I thought about what happened to a local racer. He runs a dart with 426 hemi ( turns it over 9000 rpm )and his trans exploded took out the motor and rearend too. Went through the floorpan and parts of the firewall. The trans even had a Kevlar blanket on it.

Hey !! Bills on a good streak !! [Re: mopars rule] #222274
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Chris, hate to hear the news. Hope its simple. At least you didn't oil the track or hurt yourself or the actual car. Good luck . Hope you don't need a whole trans.


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Re: Hey !! Bills on a good streak !! [Re: sunroofgtx] #222275
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get it fixed before may,SOUTHERN NATS

Re: Hey !! Bills on a good streak !! [Re: bonefish] #222276
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I'm assuming it is a MVB. Does it have a LBA?

It does absolutly nothing in 2nd or 3rd but still moves fine in 1st and rev.

Re: Hey !! Bills on a good streak !! [Re: WILD BILL] #222277
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It sure sounds like the front band is not working. I have found that alot of times running cars that use a manual valve body with the wheels off the ground it is hard to feel the shifts. I know on mine I could only notice one shift when I was spinning the wheels off the ground. But it shifted fine when I drove it and had all gears. Try putting it into 3rd on the ground to see if it does have 3rd. If it does have 3rd and first you can bet the front band let go. Ron

Re: Hey !! Bills on a good streak !! [Re: 383man] #222278
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I know on mine I could only notice one shift when I was spinning the wheels off the ground. But it shifted fine when I drove it and had all gears.




I'm basing this on the fact that it revved like it was in neutral in second gear while trying to do the burnout. I may drop the pan today before I go to work.
DC

Re: Hey !! Bills on a good streak !! [Re: dc426] #222279
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Pulled the trans pan and saw nothing! I was kinda surprised by that. The fluid looked good. A little clutch material in there but that's normal. I then pulled the valve body out and still can't see any physical evidence of anything being wrong with it. I guess it'll have to wait till I can pull the whole trans outa the car and take it apart to see what happened to it
DC

Re: Hey !! Bills on a good streak !! [Re: dc426] #222280
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Air check it before you pull it out. Could be in the VB.

Re: Had a pretty good streak of luck until lastnight [Re: dc426] #222281
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Sorry to hear..........I`m no tranny guy so I have no info for you but good luck on fixing it and hopefully it`s nothing major and glad you didn`t hurt yourself or you beautifull ride.


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Re: Had a pretty good streak of luck until lastnight [Re: Thumperdart] #222282
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I'm gonna end up pulling anyway to rule out everything. Plus I've been meaning to get it out to freshen it. I've been collecting goodies for it including a brake, so I guess no better time than now.
DC

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