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soild cam guys #222179
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What would best lash for a MP 528 solid w/ 1.5 rollers. I have been told at least 3 different stettings ranging from striaght .020 to staggering int and ex. Thanks, FWIW it's a 440-6 10.8:1, headers, and the usual stuff.

Re: soild cam guys [Re: Mr.Yuck] #222180
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Use the lash setting that MP recommends.

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P.S. I know the book says .028/.032 just checking if anybody has any tips, hints to making it run better.

Re: soild cam guys [Re: Mr.Yuck] #222182
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P.S. I know the book says .028/.032 just checking if anybody has any tips, hints to making it run better.



Start at the factory settings.If you need more low end loosen the lash a litttle.More top end tighten it a little.

Re: soild cam guys [Re: gch] #222183
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aluminum Heads??

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The lash is determined by the design of the ramp on the cam lobe. Lash is equal to ramp height x the rocker arm ratio. So use what the cam designer tells you to use rather than some hot tip of the week.

The only time to change lash is when you change the rocker arm ratio. As you increase the rocker arm ratio you need to increase the lash.

Re: soild cam guys [Re: Dodgem] #222185
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aluminum Heads??




nope ported 516's w/ 2.14/1.81 valves. These are Cat 1.5's if it makes a difference.

Re: soild cam guys [Re: Mr.Yuck] #222186
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There was a post a couple days ago. Was named "Tight valve lash" They were using less than recommended. I would leave the exh a couple thousands looser being it runs hotter.


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"would leave the exh a couple thousands looser being it runs hotter. "
good point

Re: soild cam guys [Re: gch] #222188
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P.S. I know the book says .028/.032 just checking if anybody has any tips, hints to making it run better.



Start at the factory settings.If you need more low end loosen the lash a litttle.More top end tighten it a little




I think you have it backwards. Tighten the lash is like advancing the cam which will help the low end and loosen the lash is like retarding the cam to help top end.

I have run the MP .557 at .024 and my car seems to like it. It calls for .028 and .032. Ron

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P.S. I know the book says .028/.032 just checking if anybody has any tips, hints to making it run better.



Start at the factory settings.If you need more low end loosen the lash a litttle.More top end tighten it a little




I think you have it backwards. Tighten the lash is like advancing the cam which will help the low end and loosen the lash is like retarding the cam to help top end.

I have run the MP .557 at .024 and my car seems to like it. It calls for .028 and .032. Ron



Ron, do you have int and ex at .024?

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when you loosen lash it creates more torque and when you tighten it creates more top end.

Re: soild cam guys [Re: mopar dave] #222191
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when you loosen lash it creates more torque and when you tighten it creates more top end.


Tight=big cam
loose=small cam.

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I ran mine at .024/.026. Iron heads tho.


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Re: soild cam guys [Re: moper] #222193
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I ran mine at .024/.026. Iron heads tho.



yeah I have iron heads too.

Re: soild cam guys [Re: mopar dave] #222194
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when you loosen lash it creates more torque and when you tighten it creates more top end.




No actually when you loosen the lash it retards the cam timing which can help top end depending on where the cam is at. When you tighten the lash its like advancing the cam timing and moving the power band lower hence more low end. Ron

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P.S. I know the book says .028/.032 just checking if anybody has any tips, hints to making it run better.



Start at the factory settings.If you need more low end loosen the lash a litttle.More top end tighten it a little




I think you have it backwards. Tighten the lash is like advancing the cam which will help the low end and loosen the lash is like retarding the cam to help top end.

I have run the MP .557 at .024 and my car seems to like it. It calls for .028 and .032. Ron



Ron, do you have int and ex at .024?




No the exhaust was .026. Sorry as I should have said that. And thats with 906 heads. Ron

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Re: soild cam guys [Re: Mr.Yuck] #222196
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I set both the intake and the exhaust the same, most because I'm lazy and don't want to keep up with the 2 different feeler gauges. I just pick something in the middle and go with it. So if it's .028 and .032 I just use .030. I just bracket race so it's not that important. Just keep them set and make sure they aren't moving is what is important to me.


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Re: soild cam guys [Re: 383man] #222197
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when you loosen lash it creates more torque and when you tighten it creates more top end.




No actually when you loosen the lash it retards the cam timing which can help top end depending on where the cam is at. When you tighten the lash its like advancing the cam timing and moving the power band lower hence more low end. Ron


Ron thats an interesting thought pattern. However, when you loosen the lash you are retarding the valve opening event ,AND advancing the closing event meanwhile reducing the overall valve open duration. Therefore making the cam seem smaller to the engine. The reason your motor responds well to the tightened lash is it wants a bigger cam, or duration at least.

Re: soild cam guys [Re: WadeMetzinger] #222198
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I set both the intake and the exhaust the same, most because I'm lazy and don't want to keep up with the 2 different feeler gauges. I just pick something in the middle and go with it. So if it's .028 and .032 I just use .030. I just bracket race so it's not that important. Just keep them set and make sure they aren't moving is what is important to me.




I gotta agree with this. Heck the way two diff people set or check lash will vary in results, also feeler gauges will vary a little also. Those old MP cams don't respond to lash settings. i know they are noisy, but IMO run them both about .030 and be done with it. That MP 528 cam is a great stock replacement, and will give the 509 hyd a run for its money..It idles almost dead stock in my old application. Its just a bit noisy


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