Is 1000 CFM too big for street/strip car?
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My buddy races a 900 hp big block chevy dirt track car. He has a Gary Williams built 4150 1000 cfm carb that he ran once and will no longer use. I can get a good deal on it - I have a Gary Williams built Dominator I got from him some time ago and it worked very well on my race car. I am shooting to run 10.60's to 10.70's with the car. Targeting about 650 hp.
Do you think a 4150 1000 cfm carb would be a decent choice for my street/strip car with the following specs? I am not worried about the track just how it would behave on the street:
- 69 GTX - 3800/3900 lbs - 9 1/2 inch frank lupo converter - 4.56 gear with 30 inch tire and gearvendors OD - New 512 inch Mike Ware block with fully ported Side Winder heads from Todd Marsh - cam is not yet chosen - Mopar M1 gasket matched intake - Other????
67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph 67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph 69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
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Re: Is 1000 CFM too big for street/strip car?
[Re: markz528]
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Heck yea. I run a 950 on my little 318, drive it everywhere. Haven't touched a plug in two years.
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: Is 1000 CFM too big for street/strip car?
[Re: markz528]
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DaveRS23
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I've ran Dominators on my 500" street cars for years. 1,000CFM on the street is no problem with these engines. As long as the carb is set up right. And Thumper can help with that.
Master, again and still
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Re: Is 1000 CFM too big for street/strip car?
[Re: SILVER67]
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Running an AED 1000 street/strip on my '67 R/T 505 Solid flat tappet Indy 2D 8" Dynamic 3.54 gear Pump Gas 93 3,950 pounds 11.30's @ 118
Put about 700 miles on the street as well
What size cam are you running?
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Re: Is 1000 CFM too big for street/strip car?
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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I'd run it.. but you will need to dial it in to your engine and for cruise x2; the basic carb design is probably fine, but the tune is likely to be way off for a street application.
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Re: Is 1000 CFM too big for street/strip car?
[Re: markz528]
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I've played with a few different setups on my 511. I've ran both a six pack and a 1050an 4150 carb that's pieced together from a proform 850 street carb. Both setups ran 10.90's on my 4g 69 runner on dot's, through mufflers, and driving to the track. I have the 1050 on an old tm6 I ported. Really runs well, it did take a few tricks to clean up the street manners. It really drives around as good or better than the six pack.
68 Dart GTS "HEMI" 10.30 @ 131 pump gas street car 3780# 69 Roadrunner 511 six pack 10.92 drive to track street car
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Re: Is 1000 CFM too big for street/strip car?
[Re: markz528]
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CFM wise no problem but the tune will determine how close it is to your needs.............
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Re: Is 1000 CFM too big for street/strip car?
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I hope not! I just switched from an 830 downleg carb to a new Annular HP 1000 on my 451 street / strip combo. Haven't ran it yet.
Holley's carb-selector tool landed on it for my combo, and a lot of guys here who's opinions I respect have suggested bigger is generally better.
LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120
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Re: Is 1000 CFM too big for street/strip car?
[Re: StealthWedge67]
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I hope not! I just switched from an 830 downleg carb to a new Annular HP 1000 on my 451 street / strip combo. Haven't ran it yet.
Holley's carb-selector tool landed on it for my combo, and a lot of guys here who's opinions I respect have suggested bigger is generally better. Those calculators dont work for making power bigger has always been better for me for street or strip... its all about the amount of air
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Re: Is 1000 CFM too big for street/strip car?
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You are aware that is a 1,000 cfm 4150 "3 circuit" correct?
That will take a little extra tuning... I bolted a BLP 3 circuit 1000 to my pump gas 505.....it was borrowed from a local dyno guy I know. So, I didn't want to monkey with it too much. However, it fouled out my plugs in less than 1/2 of idling and one short drive. I'm sure the 3 circuit can work on the street......but like Greg said.....plan on tuning time and prob a set of plugs Mike
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