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1967 Barracuda Formula S 383 daily driver build #2212910
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Found a '67 Formula S 383 auto fastback car locally in my search for a '67-68 notch back driver. I wasn't really looking for a big block car but lucked into finding one. I have had a few late model '09 & '15 R/T Challengers & wanted to get back into a vintage daily driver again. The old stuff is just way more fun & every drive is an adventure.

The barracuda has been off the road & in a shed since '85 & needs engine/tranny/gas tank, wiring, radiator, seats, wheels & brakes. It's very rust fee & has most it's original paint. The bumpers,header panel & front valance are all I need for the body but I am also missing the trunk trim.

Brought it home Christmas eve almost a year ago & hope to have it in the road in the next month or so.







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1967 Chevy C10 Short Stepper
1980 Macho Power Wagon LWB 318
2021 Toyota Supra
Re: 1967 Barracuda Formula S 383 daily driver build [Re: grancuda] #2212943
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The car has some neat old speed parts, old '80s Autometer gauges, a Hurst roll control & some miscellaneous bits like Super Stock Springs, billet U-joint caps, adjustable pinion snubber & a 742 sure grip.

I got a '65 383 long block with the car with the drivers front mounting boss. The crank looked good & turned @ 0.010/0.010 & cylinders cleaned up at 0.030. The 727 I got with the car went to Smothers Supercars to go thru it & he add a Transgo kit with the rebuild.

The car did come with some new parts too, an Edelbrock Performer RPM, TTI shorty headers w/aluma-coating, Schumacher motor mount brackets w/isolators.

Cleaned up the floor pans & got any loose scale & some adhesive from some aftermarket carpeting off. They are super clean & only the passenger front has a rust issue, it as 4 pinholes which will need nothing as soon as I get some POR on them.

Luckily there are no extra bucket seat holes & the factory bracing is in place so it wasn't a bench seat car that was converted to buckets.

Drivers front has some busted up spot w/metal below which I'm not really sure what happened there.









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1967 Chevy C10 Short Stepper
1980 Macho Power Wagon LWB 318
2021 Toyota Supra
Re: 1967 Barracuda Formula S 383 daily driver build [Re: grancuda] #2212954
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The 383 block got held up in the machine shop, took about 4 months. Got the block back mid April.



Got all the parts to put it together & here are the specs:
383 with a steel crank
Forged flat tops
Edelbrock E-Street w/75cc chambers
Calculates to 9.8:1 compression
Comp Cams XE274H
Holley 650 Street Avenger
Edelbrock Performer RPM
Mallory dual point
1 7/8" Hooker full length





I decided to go with Headman B-body full length under chassis instead of the shorty headers but that proved to be a



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1980 Macho Power Wagon LWB 318
2021 Toyota Supra
Re: 1967 Barracuda Formula S 383 daily driver build [Re: grancuda] #2212968
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Got the engine bay cleaned up & ready to put the engine in.








Got the b-body headers massaged in all the spots that hit but there was no way to get the starter in. I tried a magnum starter & the solenoid majorly hit one of the tubes, I tried the full size starter & just couldn't get it wedged up in there. Thinking the only way would be pull the transmission & slide it in from the back. This set-up is too troublesome for a daily driver plus the passenger side has a couple plugs almost impossible to access.



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2021 Toyota Supra
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After much searching & trying to decide going with $1000 factory manifolds or the shorty headers, I decided I wanted to get the most out of the motor & decided to cut it for fenderwells. I like the old '70s style & for me I think it will work out fine. I just will keep the replacement panels if I ever change my mind. Kind of felt bad cutting such a nice car....

Have a set of old Hooker 1 7/8" fenderwells to go on it.



I cut them on top as small as I could & still make it work, never liked the gaping holes on the top side of the fenderwell.

Check out how much undercoating is in the corner.







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1980 Macho Power Wagon LWB 318
2021 Toyota Supra
Re: 1967 Barracuda Formula S 383 daily driver build [Re: grancuda] #2212976
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I wanted to run the unique '67 383 A-body unsilenced air cleaner but didn't want to pay the $400-500 price tag guys are wanting. I ended up buying one of the non-performance silenced versions that is the same stamping with the crank case tap on the snorkel. I cut off the snorkel, put a plate over it & smoothed it off. I got a 14" drop base for the Holley carb & it worked out great. I need to get the '67 Comando 383 pie tin, I had the orange one already from a past '70 'cuda.







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Re: 1967 Barracuda Formula S 383 daily driver build [Re: grancuda] #2212979
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One of the hardest things on this thing to find has been a pair of factory buckets, they were missing when I got it & it had some Camaro highbacks. Finnally after 8 months of searching I found some seats with no tracks on the a-body forum. When I got them it was awesome because they were way nicer than I thought. The paint on the seat frames was still shiny, no rust at all. Metal seat backs were not collapsed at all from kids pushing on them, all trim was intact with original hardware. Then after I unboxed & got over how nice they were I was nervous about the seat tracks I had because they were mounted to the Camaro seats. They ended up being the right ones for the car & bolted right up to the new buckets.









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1967 Chevy C10 Short Stepper
1980 Macho Power Wagon LWB 318
2021 Toyota Supra
Re: 1967 Barracuda Formula S 383 daily driver build [Re: grancuda] #2212983
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I had 14x8 cragars that came with the car but decided against the 14" rear wheels because I just couldn't find a tire tall enough to make my 4.10 gears work. I ended up with 15x8 Ansen (new style from American Racing) w/ 275/60R15 & 14x6 ET V w/155R14 up front for header clearance.





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2021 Toyota Supra
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All the wiring under the hood & to the headlights had been unwrapped & that hard plastic convoluted covering installed. I pulled all that off & re-wrapped with non-stick tape. It was actually good because I routed the wiring away from the header opening & added additional temp/tach/ground/main power wiring into the loom.









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1980 Macho Power Wagon LWB 318
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I like those fenderwell headers on there a lot! Great looking car

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Nice work. up Been thinking about finding something similar myself for a DD. work
Mallory dual point? Must be an older guy to even know what points are. biggrin Before I retired, lots of the younger techs didn't know what points and condenser were. laugh2
If you haven't already done it, are you going to replace the heater core while all the interior is out? wink



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Re: 1967 Barracuda Formula S 383 daily driver build [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #2214202
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Originally Posted By SGTFURY62
I like those fenderwell headers on there a lot! Great looking car


Thanks, I always liked them but never really wanted them on this real 383 car. I was planning on them going on a '69 /6 Dart with a 440 we have with rusty inner fenders.

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Nice work. Been thinking about finding something similar myself for a DD. Mallory dual point? Must be an older guy to even know what points are. Before I retired, lots of the younger techs didn't know what points and condenser were. If you haven't already done it, are you going to replace the heater core while all the interior is out?


The old, rough original paint cars make nice, stress free drivers.

I'm 41, have had several points cars & several articles show there is no hp loss with points. I would rather have it simple than extra wiring & the latest electronics.

I wasn't planning on worrying about the heater core till after it is driving. I don't think it will be too hard to pull it out down the road.


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Originally Posted By SGTFURY62
I like those fenderwell headers on there a lot! Great looking car


It couldn't hurt to build a heat shield for the master cylinder.


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Got the old Autometer gauges that were in the car when I got all cleaned up & wired up. Ended up getting a replacement for the Coolant Temp since the mechanical one had the sender broke. The replacement one looks pretty decent with these old ones & isn't too far off.

These were stacked on the console & I ended up kind putting them at an angle towards me. Looks better than just all flat.


Not one of these actually matches, check out the 4 different bulb sockets...


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Got the brakes done & bleed without too many initial leaks, with 23 connections throughout the car it was inevitable. Also got the headers put on for "good" with studs, cut between the tubes & filed the mating surface smooth. Found out the "good" Mr Gasket header gaskets had the end opening about 1/4" off. Got a cheap set of header gaskets & they match up perfectly. Still have to adapt my DEI starter heat shield to fit the bottom of the master cylinder to protect from heat.



Got the correct '67 pie tin for the air cleaner.


Now if I could find what I did with the battery tray i could get the battery in & get measured up for cables & such.

The border collie thinks the car is comfortable & is sleeping even though I was running the grinder & banging things around plus it was about 45* in the garage.


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Got the pans coated in POR-15 & my spots on my hands as well. Planning on not running carpet for some time so it will look better plus I don't have to worry about any leaks initially when it rains.





Dug out a '67/68 a-body console I bought here on the DC classifieds a few years back. Someone had cut the front of console off that was in the car for some reason. My parts hoarding of parts that don't fit cars I have is finally paying off. I new I would have a console A-body at some point.



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Always fun hooking up a battery to something that hasn't had power for the probably the past 25+ years....



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Got everything laid out pretty nice as far as plug wires, wiring & fuel line around the engine. Seems like the past few weeks I've spent nights out in the garage but I've had plenty of dvr'd B/J & Mecum auctions & plenty to line out on the car.





Seems like I've made multiple trips a week to this place.





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1980 Macho Power Wagon LWB 318
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Been hitting it hard, got a Lokar transmission kickdown & it went on pretty good, much better than the stock 3 piece linkage. The transmission end of the cable is kind of close to the shifter linkage adjustment bolt. I am thinking about putting a set-screw in there to make sure it doesn't interfere.



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I like those fenderwell headers on there a lot! Great looking car


It couldn't hurt to build a heat shield for the master cylinder.



Need to get a taller throttle cable bracket but for now I added a piece of another bracket to make it reach a little closer & get it hooked up to the carb. Also got the starter heat shield adapted to protect the master cylinder.



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Finally found locally a nice old bumper which will go better with the car than a new one. This one is very good shape but once you get up on it you can see some imperfections. It really makes the back look better, been looking at this car for over a year with no bumper.



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Few weeks ago, I spent Saturday the morning getting all the fluids put in the car & the battery charged up to get ready to fire it up & break in the cam.





Got the cam broke in but had a bad oil leak which turned out to be me putting the rear main seal in backwards just on the cap 1/2.

Pulled it back out to address the rear main seal, didn't think the 1st oil change would be done in this fashion.



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Really glad I went with the fenderwell headers. The ability to get them out of the way easily when pulling the motor really makes accessing to the bell housing bolts a breeze & allows easy access to the starter.





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Drove the car for the first time, about a mile, around the section to the back side of our land to stick it in the shop last night so I could put the Challenger in the garage before the hail storm.

Drives good & nothing unexpected happened but it was just a mile.

https://youtu.be/QPvqXyXF378





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Pulled the axles & third member out to see what was in there. I knew it had the better of the 8 3/4" third member, the 742 case which from Mopar comes with a clutch type sure grip unit but could have been a peg leg & someone added a sure grip. Lukily it turned out to be the stock 742 clutch type & it looks all fresh & rebuilt & I checked it with a dial indicator & it's good. I did the initial count of the tire rev vs driveline revs & thought it was 4.10:1 & that's exactly what it turned out to be.



Put the rear end back together & it's ready to go. The thing is super clean underneath, not sure what they painted it with but it's a glossy black from below the firewall back to the rear valance.



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Its running but now it's got a slight water leak which I followed up to be a cracked block



I'll be pulling the motor at later, I put straight water in for now & it's just barely got a drip. The machine shop I used does the stitching technique for repairs like that & I'll be doing that to it.

This is the style repair I'll have done.

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Amazing what just polishing on the painted black parts of the interior can do. When wiping the dust/dirt off, it seems it is not going to shine up but with some aggressive polishing it just comes back to life.





The finned hood trim was gone & with everything else I had to buy I decided to go cheap on these so I bought some $25 pitted up swap meet ones. Figured I could paint them black & hit the high spots & around the edges with thinner & it may hide the pits. It worked out to look pretty good for cheap. Now to polish out the hood.



Since the car was backed in for rear ended work I finally got around to polishing out the decklid, roof, pass quarter/door. Found & got the bottom decklid trim on finally too. Chomping at the bit for the seats so I can really drive it.



Quite a change from when it rolled off the trailer.



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Too bad the new a-arm bushings that were already in the car are standard bushings. I need the offset bushings to try & get positive caster & with me having the higher front end ride height I need all the offset I can get.

The thing does have all new frontend parts in guessing from the when they reshot the under undercarriage.



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Love it, looks like a fun ride when done. Great Daily Driver.

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Took some time but I got the seats back & he did an awesome job. No wrinkles & the material/pattern matches the originals I dropped off perfectly. Had to figure out how the rear fold down seat went together. I didn't disassemble it & its kind of an odd setup.









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Thrashed on the car this past Friday night to get the front end back together & pulled the trans mount off due to a little leak from behind the mount & various other small issues. Ran over early Sat morning to get the seats I posted above, bolted the front seats up & got it road worthy just in time to get to the muffler shop 20 miles away just before thier cut-off time.







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Exhaust is ran for now & sounds good. Kind of a quick & dirty / cheap way to mount it. I really like how it turned out & I was able to use the front seat bolt on the front side & slipped a bolt thru an existing hole on the torque box for mounting after the muffler.

Eventually I will run it from the backside, hidden on the collector just upstream of the collector flange. Run it inside & all the way out the back as a normal set-up. I'll run some butterfly electric dumps & you won't see any of it but the 1" thick butterfly dump.







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grancuda  Offline OP
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Joined: Apr 2006
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Central US
Took the Barracuda out & about around town this past Saturday just tinkering with the timing, trans shift points & carb. It's running really good, pulls good and all. But after checking out stuff tonight it seems my crack has grown. I'm going to take my other 383 I have up to the machine shop Monday & just have him prep it & I will just swap all my stuff out & into it.



Little dirt road to the shop.


I cleaned the old crack with brake kleen 2 weeks ago to get all the blue engine paint off then since it pretty much is non-visible as bare metal I used a white paint pen to outline it. Seems the whole side of the block was weak from a water freeze at some point in the past. Glad I decided to drive it a little before pulling it & getting it repaired.



1967 Barracuda Formula S 383
1967 Chevy C10 Short Stepper
1980 Macho Power Wagon LWB 318
2021 Toyota Supra
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