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Re: The Quest Has Begun.......Parts Arrived! [Re: Dragula] #2147948
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At least the block came out looking very nice usable for sure that saves a few bucks good luck with the rest of the parts needed

Re: The Quest Has Begun.......Parts Arrived! [Re: scottb] #2148036
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Appreciate it...I am lucky, but still a little depressed about it. I have a mountain of parts sitting here in the garage that will eventually be put back together...


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: The Quest Has Begun.......Parts Arrived! [Re: Dragula] #2148186
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As stated by others glad you were able to repair it. And a very nice job on those repairs. Jim

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Randy, kudos to the guy who did the block repairs. Look at it this way....those battle scars give the block some character!


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Re: The Quest Has Begun.......Parts Arrived! [Re: DusterDave] #2149114
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Originally Posted By DusterDave
Randy, kudos to the guy who did the block repairs. Look at it this way....those battle scars give the block some character!


Thanks former Hemi guy...It certainly gives me a story to tell....The block is actually stronger than it was, maybe not prettier. There is more in it for power. We were working our way into the tune up and I think we really had the carb good, and I know the car had a mid 6.20 somthing in it....6.311 was the best pass that day.

So its met my expectations as far as ET goes for a mild street car. I want to do Drag Week one of these years...Maybe not super fast for a 605, but it looks like the high gear in the trans was toast and answers why the MPH was down some...Guess we need to work on reliability.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: The Quest Has Begun......605 Hemi Build, Updated! [Re: Dragula] #2160955
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Well, its been a little slow going, but the block as shown above is fixed and needs only some good clearance checking and cleaning and it should be ready to go, and this week, the crank came back all fixed....Thank goodness. That would have been expensive to replace.

So now if AJ Casini will just return my call, I can get an idea on the replacement parts I know I need.

And where do I get one of those oil filter plates that will sandwich in there and allow me to go to a accumulator?




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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: The Quest Has Begun......605 Hemi Build, Updated! [Re: Dragula] #2161508
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Nice to see your block repaired & your back on track to getting it re built.

Re: The Quest Has Begun......605 Hemi Build, Updated! [Re: mopar_mark] #2180799
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Well things have been slow, but still made the last race of the season last week in my engine builders Hemi Barracuda running 10.20's at 132mph...Car is a handful and we never really hooked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrm62S2Fmow

Meanwhile, we are building the trans...Got a pile of parts in from A&A and they are really nice looking. We figured we would build the trans first and then get into the engine re-build. Only hurt high gear, but we decided to go with everything A&A said we should have at this level as this trans had a few years on it.



'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: The Quest Has Begun......605 Hemi Build, Updated! [Re: Dragula] #2185867
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Things are moving now.....Trans is all done.....And Ordering all the engine parts this week...Even though my job is toast soon.





'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: The Quest Has Begun......605 Hemi Build, Updated! [Re: Dragula] #2185880
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Glad it's coming along, what's up with your job if you don't mind me asking?

Re: The Quest Has Begun......605 Hemi Build, Updated! [Re: Dragula] #2185890
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Originally Posted By Dragula
Things are moving now.....Trans is all done.....And Ordering all the engine parts this week...Even though my job is toast soon.








I used the short dipstick fitting in my trans[GM TH350]Looks like you did also.I hope your trans hold up,I had trouble burning clutches,bands.My trans is fresh now hoping for better results next yr.Good luck with the job!


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Re: The Quest Has Begun......605 Hemi Build, Updated! [Re: WO23Coronet] #2185925
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Originally Posted By WO23Coronet
Glad it's coming along, what's up with your job if you don't mind me asking?


Actually, I don't mind....I work for Greatbatch Medical doing swiss CNC machining. The comapny bought Lake Region Medical and assumed the name Integer....Well, they have decided they do not need the 400 different machined medical parts we provide, made here in NY anymore and are moving it all minus the people...I do not want to start a political debate, but you can basically guess where. They gave us 12 months give or take...

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I used the short dipstick fitting in my trans[GM TH350]Looks like you did also.I hope your trans hold up,I had trouble burning clutches,bands.My trans is fresh now hoping for better results next yr.Good luck with the job! [/quote]

I only burnt the high gear clutches and there are some tricks we did to the trans to improve flow, holding power and pressure. One set of clutches are grooved, and the other set are not. I do not recall which set is or isn't...We also bought there billet drum and thinner clutches and it holds more of them. Lots of goodies in it. Should easily survive 1000hp at my weight.

For the dipstick, I do not really like these, but there seems to be limited choices.


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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Can I ask what trans fluid you use?


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Re: The Quest Has Begun......605 Hemi Build, Updated! [Re: Clanton] #2186081
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Originally Posted By Clanton
Can I ask what trans fluid you use?


Nothing fancy here, just Napa Type F...It was over a quart low due to a leak it had when high gear started slipping. Put about a dozen passes on it before it really slipped. Had a heck of a leak, which we have found and fixed...New pan adds another two quarts over the deep steel pan.

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: The Quest Has Begun......605 Hemi Build, Updated! [Re: Dragula] #2199430
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Originally Posted By Dragula
Originally Posted By Clanton
Can I ask what trans fluid you use?


Nothing fancy here, just Napa Type F...It was over a quart low due to a leak it had when high gear started slipping. Put about a dozen passes on it before it really slipped. Had a heck of a leak, which we have found and fixed...New pan adds another two quarts over the deep steel pan.


Well I might have spoke too soon on that. I used to run ATF in all my race stuff. But according to A&A, I should be running ATF +4 for OD trans now that I am running their clutch pack....So we will be switching this year.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Good to see it going back together! That car has always been one of my favorites on Moparts!

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Originally Posted By GY3
Good to see it going back together! That car has always been one of my favorites on Moparts!


Thanks....Won't be long now....Most of the parts are ordered.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
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Re: The Quest Has Begun......605 Hemi Build, Parts Arrived! [Re: Dragula] #2200469
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Originally Posted By Dragula
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I guess you found out you can't build pressure from a suction port. I would plumb in the accumulator off another port. Do you have a remote oil filter?


I was told, it was a pressure supply port, but we could not get pressure from it, so the assumption its a suction port could be inferred, I guess. I have no other current way to get an AN10 line to attach to the block right now, so the accumulator is on the shelf for now.

Does the Indy block have oil pressure ports on the rear like a stock block, that would be the place to plumb ... unless the ports are supplying oil to the heads ?


Yes it does, but they are small....Nothing I would use for an AN10 line.



There are no ports on the pressure side of the pump that are AN-10, only aftermarket suction side lines are that size. With an Indy block you can run the internal pickup (3/8 or 1/2 " dia), or put on the blockoff plate and input with an external line to the port on front of the block that you tried to use, running an external line from the pan. Some guys use a plate between the pump and the block for the input like I have (Milodon 21001) on my 500, or a plate on the other side of the pump (Milodon 21205) to feed from that side. Or use both and feed the pump from both sides, but that can make the pump stack too big and it can interfere with the K frame.

You want the accumulator to be plumbed to the pressure side of the pump which can also be through one of the oil passages in the block. That line does not need to be AN-10. Heck, look at the threads that the oil filter screws onto - that is the pump outlet and it is smaller. I have always thought it would be good to have a normally closed solenoid valve at the accumulator that is powered by the ignition, so whenever the ign is on the accumulator is connected to the oil passages. When you go to fire up the motor the pressure in the accumulator is released and pre-oils the motor, and if you get starvation at the pickup the accumulator supplies pressure. When you shut down the motor the pressure gets trapped in the accumulator for next time.

One way to tap into the pressure side of the pump may be to go through the pump cover, or use a remote filter cover (Milodon 21225) and tee into the filter lines.

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