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Why no MW cars racing in FAST? #218353 02/09/09 03:24 AM 02/09/09 03:24 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 176 Down under S slantman OP member
slantman OP member S Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 176 Down under	Although I don't follow the F.A.S.T. racing closely, I am a fan of it, and was curious why there seems to be a lack of Max Wedge cars running in this class? Is there a part of the rules that would make a Max Wedge uncompetitive, or is there just lack of interest? I know that there are quite a few MW cars running in Stock Eliminator and similar classes. If there are any MW cars running F.A.S.T., could you post some details of their combo and what sort of times they are running? I would like to build something along those lines, just for something different, down here in Australia. Thanks.

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: slantman] #218354 02/09/09 08:28 AM 02/09/09 08:28 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 419 NY F F1Scamp mopar
F1Scamp mopar F Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 419 NY	Dave Finn runs his Max Wedge car in FAST. He has gone 11.04 @ 127mph I believe, and last year was his first year with it. I know of a new Max Wedge coming out this year I believe that should be giving Dave's car a run. Work In Progress- 71' Duster F.A.S.T.- 10.36@130 Smallblock Record Holder.

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: F1Scamp] #218355 02/09/09 09:19 AM 02/09/09 09:19 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,400 Wi. old_racer pro stock
old_racer pro stock Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,400 Wi.	I seen his car at the Nats last year, very nice 63 Dodge! Russ

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: old_racer] #218356 02/09/09 01:11 PM 02/09/09 01:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI D dizuster master
dizuster master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	The wedge would be more cost friendly, but it's hard to keep up with the potential flow/power of a hemi head... Basically all the same vintage cars, so why run a max wedge over a hemi?

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: dizuster] #218357 02/09/09 01:13 PM 02/09/09 01:13 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,403 WASHINGTON, PA 1 11secaarcuda top fuel
11secaarcuda top fuel 1 Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,403 WASHINGTON, PA	I heard that one of THE big hitters in FAST just bought a max wedge car. 67 Dart GT 340 4 speed 70 AAR Cuda 408 6 barrel 96 Indy Ram original owner 2011 Hemi Durango

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: 11secaarcuda] #218358 02/09/09 01:21 PM 02/09/09 01:21 PM
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HPMike master H Joined: May 2005 Posts: 6,446 NJ-USA	Quote: I heard that one of THE big hitters in FAST just bought a max wedge car. Can't anything fly under the radar anymore?? MB

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: HPMike] #218359 02/09/09 01:27 PM 02/09/09 01:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana D Dave Watt master
Dave Watt master D Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,048 Atlanta Indiana	Quote: Can't anything fly under the radar anymore?? MB Nope.

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: Dave Watt] #218360 02/09/09 07:00 PM 02/09/09 07:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 731 NY X XXHEMI super stock
XXHEMI super stock X Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 731 NY	Big hitter? There will be a new Maxie out in FAST this year. It should run well but it will never catch the Hemi. I'am sure there will be a 10 second run it with a little tweeking.

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: XXHEMI] #218361 02/09/09 08:48 PM 02/09/09 08:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa S scatpacktom master
scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	I'm the Big Shooter and you ARE the Big Hitter

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: scatpacktom] #218362 02/09/09 08:57 PM 02/09/09 08:57 PM
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lewtot184 master L Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,916 usa	cubic inch for cubic inch the hemi makes more power. but; if the guy with the old ramcharger or plymouth s/s builds a 3200-3400lb maxium weight steel front end car the race is on. having to spot somebody 400-500lbs,...well you get the idea. i think that blue corvette only weighs 3200lbs; and look how well it performs.

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: F1Scamp] #218363 02/09/09 09:47 PM 02/09/09 09:47 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 176 Down under S slantman OP member
slantman OP member S Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 176 Down under	Quote: Dave Finn runs his Max Wedge car in FAST. He has gone 11.04 @ 127mph I believe Any idea roughly what his engine combo is? Number of cubes, compression, roller cam?? Not after trade secrets, just a basic combo rundown.

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: lewtot184] #218364 02/09/09 09:52 PM 02/09/09 09:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit DaveDudek top fuel
DaveDudek top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit	There will be TWO 10 second Maxies next year hammering the GM`s. It sure would be nice to see those wedges close in on the Hemi`s. There is a 3rd guy who has the pieces to build yet another maxie, i`m not sure he`s ready to go that fast, just yet. Dave Dudek 1st Factory Stock legal car in the 10`s!!! [/b] FAST & Factory Stock Rules: www.fastraces.org FAST 69 Hemi RR 9.98@139

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: slantman] #218365 02/10/09 12:39 AM 02/10/09 12:39 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Number of cubes, compression, roller cam?? Not after trade secrets, just a basic combo rundown. It's probably got as many as you can squeeze into a stock block, and yes, I'm sure it's got compression and a roller.......

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? #218366 02/10/09 01:17 AM 02/10/09 01:17 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Dave Finns car really looks and runs good. I heard his Maxie eng dynoed at almost 700 hp ! Look around this site and you can find some pics of Dave's 63 Dodge. http://www.supercarraces.com/Atco08.html I know like 4 years ago Jeff Petersons 63 Ply ran 12.0's in Pure Stock not FAST and I figured if you built a Maxie for FAST it should run easy mid to low 11's and it looks like Dave's car will run 10's with no trouble next year. Ron Last edited by 383man; 02/10/09 01:17 AM.

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: XXHEMI] #218367 02/11/09 12:21 PM 02/11/09 12:21 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 58 Michigan J Joes6pk member
Joes6pk member J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 58 Michigan	Hi Ed congrats on the new purchase you�ll love it. Bob K�s been trying to get me to take mine to the pure stocks for a couple of years but it just hasn�t worked out. Car runs 11.9�s on drag radials with me driving so I suspect it could be in the mid 11�s with someone who knows what they�re doing behind the wheel. It�s got a stock �63 max wedge block but the heads have had some work and appearance wise looks as stock as they come. 5017505-Furyfullleftfront15x22.jpg (210 downloads) Last edited by Joes6pk; 02/11/09 12:29 PM.

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? #218368 02/11/09 07:46 PM 02/11/09 07:46 PM
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XXHEMI super stock X Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 731 NY	Quote: Quote: Number of cubes, compression, roller cam?? Not after trade secrets, just a basic combo rundown. It's probably got as many as you can squeeze into a stock block, and yes, I'm sure it's got compression and a roller....... Mr Big squeeze You make it sound like Iam going to violate the poor Wedge. It's nothing you wouldn't do? Big cubes, big compression and a big old roller just about say's it all . And it's all going in a black 63 Plymouth should make a good Chevy beater? We will see? Joe now that the Maxie's going to take over I can get the Black Bird back to stock! Your 64 Looks great! How have you been? Ed 5018428-Palooza8-24BigEd.jpg (138 downloads)

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: XXHEMI] #218369 02/11/09 08:50 PM 02/11/09 08:50 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 58 Michigan J Joes6pk member
Joes6pk member J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 58 Michigan	Hi Ed been doing fine just waiting for the weather to break and get the cars out. Happy to hear you're ok after the reverse exit you had at the track had to be a hell of a ride! I look on here often to see pics of the bird - have to tell ya its impressive! The maxie is a lot of fun but with a 456 gear it doesn't see too much leisure driving. Take care and hope to see you this summer and may be do a little match up of the wedgeeees - Joe Last edited by Joes6pk; 02/12/09 05:15 PM.

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: XXHEMI] #218370 02/11/09 09:03 PM 02/11/09 09:03 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Mr Big squeeze You make it sound like Iam going to violate the poor Wedge. It's nothing you wouldn't do? Big cubes, big compression and a big old roller just about say's it all . And it's all going in a black 63 Plymouth should make a good Chevy beater? We will see? Ed I'm not knocking it........That's what it's all about.........I LOVE lots of compression and the right roller.........

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: slantman] #218371 02/12/09 05:56 PM 02/12/09 05:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	I'm sure the MW could be competitive in F.A.S.T. but I'd think it'd do better in Pure Stock where the engines aren't modded enough to really take advantage of the Hemi's superior flow and where the MW has a decided compression advantage. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Why no MW cars racing in FAST? [Re: DPelletier] #218372 02/13/09 10:19 AM 02/13/09 10:19 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas dannysbee master
dannysbee master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,160 Texas	I think Dave's and Ed's Maxi's will be in the 10's next year. I think the Maxi will run into the 11's in pure stock in a no radio, heater delete, Savoy with the battery in the trunk and the 3705 carbs. An Duster, Demon with a 3100 lbs race weight and 500 flywheel HP would also be interesting in FAST. Could this be the first 10 second FAST small block. Getting old just means you were smarter than some and luckier than others.

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