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Re: K member ID question [Re: JohnRR] #2150251
09/08/16 11:28 AM
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I think there is a b body k on my 70 e body. My center link was no where near level. It rubbed on the oilpan and the left torsion bar. Had the worst bump steer I have ever experienced. Shimmed the box until the centerlink was level and all is well.


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Re: K member ID question [Re: GomangoCuda] #2150361
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Originally Posted By GomangoCuda
I think there is a b body k on my 70 e body. My center link was no where near level. It rubbed on the oilpan and the left torsion bar. Had the worst bump steer I have ever experienced. Shimmed the box until the centerlink was level and all is well.


Considering that both the steering box and the idler arm and both bolted to the K frame how could the issue of it being an E body or a B body K frame matter?

If either the steering box or the idler arm was bolted to the unibody frame while the other was on the K that MIGHT be an issue , but not when both are bolted to the same part. Either the steering box mount was welded on wrong or the bend in the idler arm was wrong.


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Re: K member ID question [Re: JohnRR] #2150427
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Originally Posted By JohnRR
Originally Posted By GomangoCuda
I think there is a b body k on my 70 e body. My center link was no where near level. It rubbed on the oilpan and the left torsion bar. Had the worst bump steer I have ever experienced. Shimmed the box until the centerlink was level and all is well.


Considering that both the steering box and the idler arm and both bolted to the K frame how could the issue of it being an E body or a B body K frame matter?

If either the steering box or the idler arm was bolted to the unibody frame while the other was on the K that MIGHT be an issue , but not when both are bolted to the same part. Either the steering box mount was welded on wrong or the bend in the idler arm was wrong.



Pre 70 b body has a different pitman arm than e body or 71_72 b body. The e body has a flatter steering column angle to match the lower seating. If the box was also tilted on the ebody k to match the column angle then the pitman would need less offset. If this pitman was then used with a b body k then that end of the centerlink would be high. Since I have not compared any of the parts on my car with correct parts and have no idea what butchery was performed on mine by previous owners the above is pure supposition based on the misalignments that I observed. Who knows, maybe my k came out of a wrecked car.
Regardless:
Fact-the kmembers are different
Fact-the pitman arms are different
Fact-the steering column angles are different
Fact-if these parts are mixed up there will be some degree of deviation from the way they were designed to go together.

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Re: K member ID question [Re: GomangoCuda] #2150516
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Originally Posted By GomangoCuda


...Regardless:
Fact-the kmembers are different
Fact-the pitman arms are different
Fact-the steering column angles are different
Fact-if these parts are mixed up there will be some degree of deviation from the way they were designed to go together.


One of the reasons I don't really wanna make-due.. So, anyone up for a swap of a "00" for a "79"?.. lol


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Re: K member ID question [Re: GomangoCuda] #2150892
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Originally Posted By GomangoCuda
Originally Posted By JohnRR
Originally Posted By GomangoCuda
I think there is a b body k on my 70 e body. My center link was no where near level. It rubbed on the oilpan and the left torsion bar. Had the worst bump steer I have ever experienced. Shimmed the box until the centerlink was level and all is well.


Considering that both the steering box and the idler arm and both bolted to the K frame how could the issue of it being an E body or a B body K frame matter?

If either the steering box or the idler arm was bolted to the unibody frame while the other was on the K that MIGHT be an issue , but not when both are bolted to the same part. Either the steering box mount was welded on wrong or the bend in the idler arm was wrong.



Pre 70 b body has a different pitman arm than e body or 71_72 b body. The e body has a flatter steering column angle to match the lower seating. If the box was also tilted on the ebody k to match the column angle then the pitman would need less offset. If this pitman was then used with a b body k then that end of the centerlink would be high. Since I have not compared any of the parts on my car with correct parts and have no idea what butchery was performed on mine by previous owners the above is pure supposition based on the misalignments that I observed. Who knows, maybe my k came out of a wrecked car.
Regardless:
Fact-the kmembers are different
Fact-the pitman arms are different
Fact-the steering column angles are different
Fact-if these parts are mixed up there will be some degree of deviation from the way they were designed to go together.


Nevermind .... I don't want to turn this thread into a pissing contest, it's already turned into a want ad ...

I'm waiting for it to go into a what's it worth wink


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Re: K member ID question [Re: JohnRR] #2150911
09/09/16 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By JohnRR


Nevermind .... I don't want to turn this thread into a pissing contest, it's already turned into a want ad ...

I'm waiting for it to go into a what's it worth wink


No, I'll do that on Facebook, along with the "Troy-Trade" pitch.... grin

The thread was rather informative to me and answered the question I needed, I have the incorrect k-member,,,,


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Re: K member ID question [Re: hemi68charger] #2166159
10/01/16 10:34 PM
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Hey everyone..
Went and checked out the k-member today... It has a stamp of 3289 2 on it..... So, according to this, this is Nov. 24th 1969.. I would guess that is appropriate for a Nov. 30th build date for my Superbird.. Soo,, I guess my Superbird got the incorrect coin on the k-member..... hard to see, but it is 3289....

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