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rotary shifter delete? #2162130
09/26/16 04:46 PM
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I'm due for a new truck, but I hate the mandatory rotary shifter on the Ram 1500. According to the Ram stealer, they can not order a 1500 without it. I'd switch to a Ford or Chev to get rid of it, except for that my dad is a Chrysler retiree, so I get killer pricing.

Does anyone make a kit to replace the stupid thing with a real shifter? Thanks, Joel


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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2162352
09/26/16 09:39 PM
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Not that I've seen. Its electric so no real linkage involved. It really isn't all that bad if the truck comes with shifter on the wheel.

Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2163085
09/27/16 08:24 PM
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Joel, you are alone in this crusade. If Dodge Customers didn't like it, they would have got rid of it by now. Complaining to us isn't going to make it go away either. I'll gladly trade you the sloppy, indicators don't line-up, stuck in the 50's lever on my '01 for your dial.

Soon, Fords will have it.......doubtful if Blunder Motors will pull their heads out of their asses long enough to see the light.

For many years now all heavy equipment, medium and heavy duty trucks have these controls in various forms from transmission to hydraulics.....and it's the best thing ever. I'd never go back to manual controls.

And, I'm just curious: but, what has it done to you? Has it failed? Do you think the aftermarket is even remotely smarter than Chrysler to build one?


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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2163187
09/27/16 10:34 PM
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I've lived with it for 2 years. Its stupid. It's non-intuitive. It's annoying. I don't think I'm alone in my opinion, but even if I was, my opinion won't change. I gave it 2 years.
Maybe I need to invent and market a kit to replace it.

Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2163206
09/27/16 10:55 PM
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I can get you the friends discount on any new Ford, but it isn't as good as employee pricing like you're getting on the Rams. If you're a good negotiator you can do better than the friends discount pretty easily.

I agree that the rotary shifter is not intuitive to use. I much prefer a column shifter, or a conventional shifter in the console- especially for things like backing up a trailer or plowing snow.


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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Blusmbl] #2163238
09/27/16 11:27 PM
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Funny timing on this topic...I traded my 2011 Laramie for a 2016 about 2 weeks ago absolutely love the new truck, better power, fuel mileage, built in trailer brake...etc, etc, etc....however...I got my online customer survey today and blasted the rotary shifter, thought I could get used to it, not so much, not yet at least.


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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2163278
09/28/16 12:05 AM
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It took me awhile but I got used to it. Still haven't gotten used to the horrible drive by wire lag though.

Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2163326
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I love the truck overall. The hemi and the 8 speed is a great combination. Yes, the drive by wire lag is a pain, but I've figured out how to deal with it. If I want 1/2 throttle, I don't just push the pedal down 1/2 way. I floor it, then back off to 1/2 after the trans kicks down and the revs come up. That speeds it up a little.


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RO23J71
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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2163357
09/28/16 01:26 AM
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I wouldn't buy a truck with a rotary shifter in it. Forget it.

Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Grizzly] #2163750
09/28/16 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Grizzly
Joel, you are alone in this crusade. If Dodge Customers didn't like it, they would have got rid of it by now. Complaining to us isn't going to make it go away either. I'll gladly trade you the sloppy, indicators don't line-up, stuck in the 50's lever on my '01 for your dial.

Soon, Fords will have it.......doubtful if Blunder Motors will pull their heads out of their asses long enough to see the light.

For many years now all heavy equipment, medium and heavy duty trucks have these controls in various forms from transmission to hydraulics.....and it's the best thing ever. I'd never go back to manual controls.

And, I'm just curious: but, what has it done to you? Has it failed? Do you think the aftermarket is even remotely smarter than Chrysler to build one?


Lots of other complaints on this setup....

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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Mopar1970440] #2163940
09/28/16 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Mopar1970440


Lots of other complaints on this setup....



Oh yes, lots of the stuck-in-their-ways Old Farts I used to work with complained too:

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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Grizzly] #2163943
09/28/16 10:09 PM
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Our spare machine looks like this, and no one will run it; not after running the new one for a couple of months.

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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2163948
09/28/16 10:11 PM
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So you "lots" of Complainers stay in the stone-age, I prefer to move forward. twocents


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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2164166
09/29/16 06:14 AM
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I don't mind the knob at all. Not really my choice if I were designing it from the get-go, but I don't have any issue using it at all.

Then again, I had a push-button shifter in my 64 Fury to the LEFT side of the steering wheel. laugh

Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2164169
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this is why my truck has a manual transmission laugh

Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2164180
09/29/16 08:00 AM
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Have had my rotary shifter for one year and it is still awkward to me. As said, backing a trailer is where it is the most annoying. Ford's Fusion commercial shows a rotary shifter. I can live with the rotary but like it has been said, it is not intuitive.


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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: dfsmopars] #2164282
09/29/16 12:21 PM
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Not a big deal to me, took me about a week to get used to. Now I reach for the dash on every other car I own.


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Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Grizzly] #2164399
09/29/16 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By BleedDodge
I wouldn't buy a truck with a rotary shifter in it. Forget it.


I wouldn't but a truck with an automatic transmission or anything other than a direct linkage transfer case shifter either.

Originally Posted By Grizzly
Our spare machine looks like this, and no one will run it; not after running the new one for a couple of months.


I can't say I do enough excavating with my pickup truck for it to matter. I wouldn't want to own one of these trucks when the electronic garbage starts failing. I work in the heavy duty transport industry and see it on the highway tractors. No thanks.

Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2166586
10/02/16 06:41 PM
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One thing is for sure, the engineers at Chrysler who designed that and thought it was a good idea to put it in a truck, have never plowed snow!

Re: rotary shifter delete? [Re: Grizzly] #2166758
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Originally Posted By Grizzly
Our spare machine looks like this, and no one will run it; not after running the new one for a couple of months.



Great pics Grizzly..... What a difference.

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