how many inches?

I would agree. Adam you have relocated/minitubbed. you are on the right track

Don't care, cars like mine look terrible at stock rear ride height. Like an old granny with a dragging ass.



It was done 20 years ago so I couldn't tell you. A 28" tire fully clears the rear wheel well lip in terms of height.

why sure there is ! way back in the day, "fearles frankie", a local "muscle car ricer" had a 65 or so mustang with a real fast [ ] v8 3speed ! only problem was, he couldn't blaze the tires like the rest of his tribe on the street, and he didn't have money for air shocks. but he got a brilliant idea ! he jacked up his beast until the rear was off the ground and the springs had a real good arch to then. next, he cut up two 6x6 wood blocks just a tad longer than the distance between the axle tubes and the floor pan, wedging them between said distances with a sledge because they were longer than necessary and he didn't want them to fall out ! a little flat black rattle can poofery, and wow ! looked just like "hi-jackers" with 175lb. air in them ! went out cruising friday night, and when he showed off his new stance, well, by golly, we was sure 'nuff impressed and congratulated him for what a kewl badass hotrod he now had ! he said it really "improved" his horspower, because he could now blaze the tires almost forever ! after a little goading, [well not really] he was gonna show us. out on the street, one, two, three, and he is off...... tires just a boiling smoke [7.75x14" size on chrome-ina-can wheels]. boy was us guys impressed ! "fast frankie" blasted past under the interstate bridge where the locals made their "quota" for the city. "fast frankie" got an invitation to the "policeman's ball" with a slight twist added. seems the officers ordered him to let the air out of his shocks, but then found out about his lift kit. frankie had to have his car towed. those of us there that night still chuckle when this incident is brought up !

Well, at least he fixed the wheel hop issue early Stangs had, lol.

Get a set of these from Summit. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EXP-13120/

Just mount bigger tires.
The rake some still seem to like will follow.

At least with the big rear tires there's some legitimate reason for the stance.

why the bashing from some of you? the op asked how to do it correctly without ripping his cross member out with air shocks not if raising it is correct. those of us that like the look would like to know how others of 'us' have done it.

Why are you bashing those of us that are pointing out the issues of raising the rear end. Can you read the OP's mind to know that he's aware of it?

Because back in the day this was usually only used to put WAY TOO big of a wheel and tire combo on a car and always looked "jimmy rigged".....

The wheel options and multiple back spacing options today make no sense to do that anymore

That said, if that's what the OP likes, more power to him..

BUT, just like 45 years ago, be prepared for some not very flattering comments about it...

this is helpful.



this is bashing
"When I see a car with it's rear jacked up it tells me musclecar equivalent of a ricer."

the OP didn't ask "what's your opinion on the look". he likes the look, i like the look and so do many of us.
for the 800-1000 miles i put on my car a year i'll sacrifice some handling and a few worn idler arms.

My old man jacked his 63 Maxi to get some 32" in there.

Was just talking to another member about the SS Springs but I chose the xhd springs because the car is something like 4000 pounds without driver plus it will have multiple people in it a lot of the time. Not to say the SS Springs would be bad I just thought the ride would be better with the xhd springs.

I've heard many complaints about the xhd springs sitting too low brand new and then other people have said their's were great. I must have got one of those bad batches because it looks like it's sitting lower then when it had the old stock Springs.

I don't need the back clown car high, just a nice rake look. My car looks horrible flat. I think I'll just use the lowest mounting hole for now then in the next round of modifications I'll get espo springs and look into the front 2" drop spindles

Raising the rear, back in the day was done to fit drag slicks inside the wheel wells. However, racers knew how it shifted the weight forward so they would raise the front to compensate.

This is an example of what was done back then. The car has a classy rake and still drives, stops, and handles well.



Now days, with front and rear IFS raising the car isn't as easy or necessary. Those of us who lived through that period still like the raked look though.

This is where to start w this quest.

Just mount bigger tires.
The rake some still seem to like will follow.

At least with the big rear tires there's some legitimate reason for the stance.

Doing nothing but this to my Challenger makes all the diff. in the world.
Here's a pic of the sig challenger w bigger rear wheels and tires

the thing with the e-bodies is the rake look is built in they have the upward swoop at the rear.

i don't think anybody is looking for that 'clown-high' look like with the old N-50 series rear tires.

this is mine with the rake i like. the back sits at 23". the back is raised so my tires don't rub when i corner. the car is tubbed but i run a 29x15x15 in the back.

back view

So, exactly, how would this wear out idler arms?

I know I never said anything about that so it must be something you believe.

not 'believe' but told by the state inspections dude back in my youth. made sense given the number of idler arms i went through in my first RR.

a couple of other unconfirmed things i was told way back then

smoking dried banana peels will get you high. could never get them to light BUT i can confirm that the sulfur fumes from all the matches will get you dizzy and incredibly sick to your stomach.

touching yourself in an unholy way will make you go blind. at 62 i'm still ok but i'm working on this one

Back in the day, I used shock extensions w/air shocks to clear the L70s (yes, L70s) that left no daylight in the rear fender wells of my 70 Challenger. Occasionally, fenders would rub after going over a highway dip at speed; but had the look of a 70 Pro-Stock Challenger I've always liked.