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How abouts a parts weight database? I will start #21370
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Started to pull apart the junk to access what I need.

Since everyone always asks what stuff weighs... Can break it down into the body styles. What do you think?

E Body:
Fenders: 34 lbs
Front lower valance: 6 lbs

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: TheOtherDodge] #21371
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side impact beams in challenger doors 22lb each
stock bucket seats 45 each
battery,tray and bracket 48lb


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Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: sixpackgut] #21372
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e body a/c heater box and blower 37 lbs

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: mcat4321] #21373
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66-67 BBody

Internal AC Box / Blower / Heater Core - 52 lbs.
Power Steering box/pump/lines - 45 lbs.
Front Bucket Seat - 51 lbs.
Center console - 22 lbs.
Stock Flat Hood with brackets - 69 lbs.
Stock 8.75" housing/Moser 4.10 spool chunk/Moser Axles/drum Brakes - 212 lbs
Fifty Lb balast bar - 50lbs.

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start #21374
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70 Challenger
p/S box--35# 11Oz
t Bars pair of .96, 17# 12 oz
uc arms pair 10# 1 oz
bare k frame 37# 15 oz
pair of bare spindles 12#
front 10" front drum brakes pair 64# 9 0z
k frame as dropped out of car with steering box, all bolts ( no shocks or UC arms) 208 lbs

weight of everything in above 236#

15 x8 bare ralley wheel 25# 11 oz
outer front bumper bracket 9# pair
inner 10# pair
Hooker headers for Hemi 33# pair
stock rear axle 19# 7 oz each
rear spring 39 # 9oz each
rear bumper, bolts and brackets 26# 1oz
front bumper ,brackets and bolts 35#
bucket seat 46# 8 oz
steering column 24 # 2oz
door beam 24# 7 oz
empty 727 (no tc) 129#
indy single 4 intake 20#
rear 10" drum 12# 6 oz each
PS pump with brackets 13 # 7 oz

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: VanishPt] #21375
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Is there anyway I can add this to Harpos weights for a 66-7 b-body? Anyway..
Back seat 45#
Front bumper w/o brackets 25#
This is a great idea!

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: TheOtherDodge] #21376
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1969 Super Bee:
  • Stock "Power Bulge" hood: 62.5lbs
  • AAR Bolt On Six Pack Hood: 28lbs
  • Stock front drum brakes: 39lbs/side
  • Wilwood Heavy Duty disk brakes: 18lbs/side

  • Stock Big Block starter: 17.5lbs
  • Mini Starter (93 Ram): 8.5lbs

  • 906 head: 50lbs
  • Edelbrock RB head: 29lbs




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Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: TheOtherDodge] #21377
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FULLMETALJACKET HERE.

Been away on a falling business for a while and now back.
The following parts while the car was dismantled for painting were double checked on a second scale and then put back on the car unless other wise (Deleted) or (Replaced).
This car hasn't an ounce of fiberglass/carbon fiber on its skin and is street driven to and from the races/car shows. WORD.

Defendant: 65' Dodge Coronet two door post.
Front fenders: 58 1/2 lbs for the pair.
Stock Hood: 68 lbs. Gutted carb hole opening with A990 Hemi hood scoop: 79 lbs.
Hood hinges locking latch misc hardware: 13 1/4 lbs. 4-steel hood pins, replaced.
Front wheelwell and headlight splash panels: 11 lbs.
Power steering box, pump , belt, misc. hardware: 49 lbs. manual steering box, replaced.
Master brake cylinder: 6 1/2 lbs.
Front fold down bench seat, belts, mounting hardware: 100 lbs. A-100 bucket seats, replaced.
Rear two piece seat: 56 lbs. (deleted)
Stock radio: 6 1/2 lbs. (deleted)
Heater unit, ducts, switches and misc: 27 lbs. (deleted)

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: fullmetaljacket] #21378
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bare mp hemi head 81

bare 906 head 46

bare max wedge head 39

bare T/A head 46.5

69.5 six pack intake and carbs 35.5

hemi intake and carbs 38

71 340 tq intake and carb 42.5

72 400 tq intake 36

70 340 intake and carb 53

70 440 intake and carb 43

max wedge intake and carbs 37.5

340+6 intake 25

340 cast crank 52.5

383 steel crank 71

400 cast crank 63.5

440 cast crank 69

360 4in stroke crank 60.5

340 4in stroke crank 57

big block 4.150 mp crank 82

big block 4.150 440 source crank 72

max wedge ex manifold L 31 R 27.5

big block a body ex manifolds L 16.5 R 13.5

68 to 70 340 ex manifolds L 12.5 R 14

71 440 hp ex manifolds L 20.5 R 16

71 340 ex manifold L 12.5 R 13

23 spline b+e body 4 sp 120

18 spline b+e body 4sp 127

10.5 130 tooth flywheel 30

8 3/4 sure grip center section 74

8 3/4 spool center section 61

e body 8 3/4 with axles without brakes 145

b body dana with axles without brakes 205

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: TheOtherDodge] #21379
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entire front suspension for a body including k member
"237 lbs"


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Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: TheOtherDodge] #21380
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This would be a very neat addition to the Tech Archives after some more info gets added.



'64 Dodge 440 2 dr. sedan - 440/pushbutton 727 (in the body shop)
'99 Dodge 2500 Quad Cab Long bed 4WD - CTD 5 spd. 3.54
'89 Dodge 150 4x4 - 5.9 TBI/727 35x12.50's and 8" lift
'14 Dodge Dart Limited 2.4/6-speed A/T
Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: TheOtherDodge] #21381
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76 Dart Sport:
left/right window and all crank mech. 35# per side.

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: TheOtherDodge] #21382
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69 Plymouth Dash complete with all assy 48lbs

69 Plymouth Dash radio delete, heater delete, map light delete 42 1/2 lbs

69 Plymouth bucket seats 44 1/2 lbs each

15x7 steel rim 24lbs

15x6 steel rim 22 1/2

Complete 69 Plymouth steering column 24 1/2 lbs

Cast Iron HEMI 4-speed case 33lbs

Alum HEMI 4-speed case 15lbs

Complete alum HEMI 4-speed 88lbs

Complete cast iron HEMI 4-speed 121lbs

727 TQ 120lbs

STK HEMI balancer 13lbs

STK 440 balancer 6lbs

Stock 70 Challenger hood 78lbs

T/A fiberglass factory hood 46lbs


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Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: Ramcharger] #21383
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Quote:

This would be a very neat addition to the Tech Archives after some more info gets added.





this post has been saved, eventually it'll end up in the archives

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: Ira] #21384
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Front steel wheels 15"X4" with vintage Super Stock Formula 1 tires: 50 lbs. Pair.
Center line Auto drags with Moroso Drag specials: 25 lbs. Pair.

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: fullmetaljacket] #21385
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Front steel wheels 15"X4" with vintage Super Stock Formula 1 tires: 50 lbs. Pair.
Center line Auto drags with Moroso Drag specials: 25 lbs. Pair.




You meant "each", not per pair right? I have Firestone Firehawk 7.75x14 on Cragar SuperTrick 3.5x15s and they are 22.5 lb each. Used to have Moroso Drag Specials 7.60x15 on these wheels and they were about the same.


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Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: Craig] #21386
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Sorry guy's, I meant each.
these parts are weighing down on my brain.

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: fullmetaljacket] #21387
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35 spline power-loc suregrip for Dana 60,41 lbs.

35 spline Strange spool for Dana 60, 14 lbs.

Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: TheOtherDodge] #21388
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Last night, I ran across the old Hot Rod issue where Steve Magnante took something like 500 pounds off of his Duster. I could post the numbers on all those items if anyone would be interested.


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'64 Dodge 440 2 dr. sedan - 440/pushbutton 727 (in the body shop)
'99 Dodge 2500 Quad Cab Long bed 4WD - CTD 5 spd. 3.54
'89 Dodge 150 4x4 - 5.9 TBI/727 35x12.50's and 8" lift
'14 Dodge Dart Limited 2.4/6-speed A/T
Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: Ramcharger] #21389
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If you have the time, yes please post these #'s as I'm just in the process of putting the Duster back together after the painting and tubbing.

Thanks a lot!


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I haven't forgotten about it. I've been busy and it will take me a little while to compile the figures.



'64 Dodge 440 2 dr. sedan - 440/pushbutton 727 (in the body shop)
'99 Dodge 2500 Quad Cab Long bed 4WD - CTD 5 spd. 3.54
'89 Dodge 150 4x4 - 5.9 TBI/727 35x12.50's and 8" lift
'14 Dodge Dart Limited 2.4/6-speed A/T
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Okay, they took their 408hp '70 Duster the weighed 3012# and cut it down to 2424# for a total loss of 588# !!! Note that all these figures are less driver. It ran 7.627 @ 89.38 before and 7.235 @ 93.95 after. They estimated that the quarter mile times would have been 11.93 down to a 11.35 for a 5.8 tenths improvement. Another interesting factor was that this was a cost-no-object article and that over $10K was spent in the process. Thats a bunch of dough, but hey, at least it was done for the better interest of Mopar community! (and it wasn't a Chevy!) FYI, this is taken out of the Oct. '03 issue of Hot Rod.

#'s lost = pounds removed
total = total vehicle weight in pounds
F/R# = Front and Rear weight in pounds
F/R% = Front and Rear weight in percentage
W/P = Weight-to-Power ratio(not the commonly used power-to-weight ratio, since the power is a constant)
C/PR = Cost per Pound Removed (they also said that CPR is what you might need when you see the price of some of this stuff !)
cost = cost of parts/modification in 2003 dollars

The attachment shows the chart that I put together.

If you would like to see the original article, here is a link: http://www.hotrod.com/howto/113_0310_loseii/index.html The article gives details on all the parts that I listed on the chart. It was an interesting approach at losing over half a second off your ET without ever turning a screw under the hood. Cost effective? Not in my opinion, but I still give them credit for showing some ways to do it and the differences it made. And also, unlike power adders that probably add strain to the engine & drive train trying to achieve that ET reduction, the lighter weight no doubt reduced the strain/stress on the engine & drive train. I hope this helps.


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'64 Dodge 440 2 dr. sedan - 440/pushbutton 727 (in the body shop)
'99 Dodge 2500 Quad Cab Long bed 4WD - CTD 5 spd. 3.54
'89 Dodge 150 4x4 - 5.9 TBI/727 35x12.50's and 8" lift
'14 Dodge Dart Limited 2.4/6-speed A/T
Re: How abouts a parts weight database? I will start [Re: TheOtherDodge] #21392
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You know the saying: How fast do you wanna go?
Well, I say: How's your car fasting?
I've always lived by the lighter the mightier. a lighter car will last longer with a given combination and will be stranger to the CSI dudes from the other camp.

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anyone got any more relevant weights and measurements to add to this?

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