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DIY alignment tools? recommendations? #2120073
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Anyone do their own alignments at home?
I remember reading the trick about using grease for turning plates instead of spending 300 bucks on a used set.

And I mean live and drive with it, not just enough to get to the alignment shop.

I even see some machines on craigslist for under a grand, but not sure if those are usable.

longacre has some as well as summit, but reviews vary wildly and I don't know enough to know if they are the loose nut behind the wheel reviews or actual issues.

Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Andrewh] #2120096
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Sure it can be done at home. I used to do it with a digital level, measuring tape and lines on the garage floor - parallell with the vehicle and 20 degrees out both ways at both wheels to get the caster. You will have to do the math afterwards to find/read the caster. Two pieces of sheet metal with grease between makes a good working turnplate. Might be a little messy. I finally got a used 20 years old rack for about 300 dollars. It was interesting to see how close my old school alignments was when I checked them with the rack. Do a search on here and you will find more info.

Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Andrewh] #2120133
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Specialty Products Company 91000 FasTrax Camber/Caster Gauge:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PG6OW2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Longacre Toe Plates (Set) Includes (2) Tapes:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000VAOHB2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought a turn table off Ebay. I don't see the type on there now?

Anyhow, done it on the floor without turn table before. Need to roll the car back and forth to settle the tires between adjustments.

Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: 451Mopar] #2120175
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I ain't done it at home but I will. there are some good utube videos I believe that will help & one guy said use salt instead of grease. I would get the camber plumb with a 2ft carpenters level vertical on the sidewalls and the toe in straight with a tape with st wheel centered & box halfway between lock to lock and the suspension height where you like the wheel fitment in the wells and drive it for several miles to settle everything then recheck/reset everything with a half tank of gas and your weight in barbells in the dr seat & tires aired up & front wheelwell/tire fitment OK to you and just me I would turn the cams to get max positive caster then bring the rear cam forward as needed till the camber is zero or a skosh neg & let the caster fall where it may & call it good & if the front cam(s) do need to be also turned to get plumb on the camber then that too. EDIT & first you'd wanna string it to get it level & I have some plates from Lowes that I will use when the time comes (stack them under each tire till the 4 sections of string anchored between the top plate and bottom of tire treads are level)

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Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Andrewh] #2120183
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I had 68HemiB come over some years ago and help me do one in the garage...he brought a magnetic mount caster/camber gauge and I made my own plates. (I had made up a toe gauge thing too)

Worked great and car has been like that ever since.

Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Andrewh] #2120262
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I bought the Longacre unit

I figured I was getting a cool angle finder that pops out/in with just a magnet.... Haven't used it for anything else yet though. frown


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Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Andrewh] #2120402
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So the more I read, the more people say use digital, the bubble ones don't go accurate enough.

Autoxcuda why the bungie cord if it is magnetic?

so does a rack have all the pieces as part of a rack and the computer part is just to tell you the numbers instead of figuring them out your self?

Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Andrewh] #2120457
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I have a fast track tool and it's a bubble deal and plenty accurate. That is BS that a bubble is not accurate enough. Never have worry about battery's going dead with a bubble.

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Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Andrewh] #2120772
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Use your smartphone and an alignment app.

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Did you use "i align" or is there a free app I didn't see.

Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: RapidRobert] #2121035
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Originally Posted By RapidRobert
I ain't done it at home but I will. there are some good utube videos I believe that will help & one guy said use salt instead of grease. I would get the camber plumb with a 2ft carpenters level vertical on the sidewalls and the toe in straight with a tape with st wheel centered & box halfway between lock to lock and the suspension height where you like the wheel fitment in the wells and drive it for several miles to settle everything then recheck/reset everything with a half tank of gas and your weight in barbells in the dr seat & tires aired up & front wheelwell/tire fitment OK to you and just me I would turn the cams to get max positive caster then bring the rear cam forward as needed till the camber is zero or a skosh neg & let the caster fall where it may & call it good & if the front cam(s) do need to be also turned to get plumb on the camber then that too. EDIT & first you'd wanna string it to get it level & I have some plates from Lowes that I will use when the time comes (stack them under each tire till the 4 sections of string anchored between the top plate and bottom of tire treads are level)
RR, a carpenters level on the sidewalls won't work well as the sidewall bulges more on the bottom.

Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: forphorty] #2121039
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Quote:
RR, a carpenters level on the sidewalls won't work well as the sidewall bulges more on the bottom.
Noted!


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Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Andrewh] #2121087
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i just started checking the alignment on my '72 Challenger tonight. I rebuilt the front end on my '74 last fall and bought a bubble gauge to try the alignment. it worked great. i made turn plates out of lexan and calibrated it with a degree wheel. the bubble gauge was simple to use too. I had to make plates for my Cragars so the magnet would stick to it. all in all, i had to tweak it a couple times but it drives straight as an arrow.





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Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: thehemikid] #2121119
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Originally Posted By thehemikid
Did you use "i align" or is there a free app I didn't see.


Yes I did. But I also used an app called "CamberMeas" later on.

Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Andrewh] #2122110
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I just got this with the magnetic bubble level form e bay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Wheel-Alignment-Rack-Tool-for-Camber-Caster-Gauge-Adapter-Rim-Clamp-Mount/232031133083?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D37471%26meid%3Dd0bbf08d787444f3ba6aef37ba61b1e4%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D371674228650

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Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Andrewh] #2122389
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I use a Howe magnetic caster/camber gauge. You remove the grease cap from the spindle, then it sticks to the hub. If you have an aluminum hub, you remove the spindle nut, put a big steel washer on, then tighten the spindle nut back on. THe magnet then sticks to the washer. It is a bubble, and it is acurate and easy to use.

I called a bunch of local garages and asked if they had a set of turntables that weren't using. Scored a pair for dirt cheap. Ugly but they work.


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Re: DIY alignment tools? recommendations? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2203592
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What do you guys think of this tool?,according to the seller,its the best!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Compact-2-Wheel-Alignment-System-Camber-Caster-Toe-Gauge-Tool-BEST-ACCURACY-/281779213264?hash=item419b5993d0:g:3GMAAOSwVupTqJDt&item=281779213264&vxp=mtr

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