Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Was wondering if anybody here has ever used either of these tools to remove and install the snap ring on the front drum in a 727 trans. With trans shops charging $15 to $20 just to remove or install, and having to leave it with them 'til the next day, these kind of look like they might work. I tried C-Clamps and all I ever got was a bent retainer. Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Jeff tool #1 Tool#2
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Both look like they would work fine.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Here's the home made tool I've been using for 40+ years.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Was wondering if anybody here has ever used either of these tools to remove and install the snap ring on the front drum in a 727 trans. With trans shops charging $15 to $20 just to remove or install, and having to leave it with them 'til the next day, these kind of look like they might work. I tried C-Clamps and all I ever got was a bent retainer. Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Jeff tool #1 Tool#2 Either one will work, I would go with number 2 . I have the factory miller tool, but I like John K's rendition.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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I don't remember what I used on my last 727 build, but it was not tool listed here I can say that, except maybe a C clamp. But that was back in 94, so my memory is not there.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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I always use c-clamps on all 904s and 727s I build. I've NEVER had a bent retainer
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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I was doing a powerglide once and found a PVC coupling that was the right diameter and notched it so I could get to the snap ring and used it in a press , but a big c lamp would have also worked.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Easiest/fastest to use is the one like hemi71x shows - I bought one like that, along with a foot operated one many years ago when a local shop closed. Also got a small box of assorted ones like the O/P posted as tool#1.
Google T-0158-SP and you will find several companies that sell the one that hemi71x shows, starting at about $135 on e-bay. Google T-0171 for the foot press I mentioned - they seem to start about $400.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Was fortunate to acquire the original Miller tool years ago. Got one of those off ebay 12 yrs ago...for 50 bucks.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Was fortunate to acquire the original Miller tool years ago. I have that tool, I bought it directly from Miller around 2002, it is also used to press the rear sprag outer race into the case.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Yes, use to use half of a muffler clamp and the press
Then made a tool using the same muffler clamp and a center bolt and some washers, lot like the factory tool.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Was fortunate to acquire the original Miller tool years ago. Got one of those off ebay 12 yrs ago...for 50 bucks. Wow,that Miller Tool looked mighty familiar, once i saw a picture of it. Went and opened up a couple of storage containers, and come to find, i have one of them, too. Also used to collect, buy, Miller Tools, back in the old days. This one of mine has to be NOS, as i never used it, as i have the other tool, that i used all the time.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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cOOL TOOLS!
Curious though, how many of you reuse the snap rings? Not saying its bad or good, just when you take the time to remove a tranny, and rebuild/repair, do you guys reuse snap rings? arent they fairly cheap to just buy new? As far as re using,sometimes yes and sometimes no.The main reason to change the snap ring is to get the correct clearance between the pressure plate and snap ring if you change disc's.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Curious though, how many of you reuse the snap rings? Not saying its bad or good, just when you take the time to remove a tranny, and rebuild/repair, do you guys reuse snap rings? arent they fairly cheap to just buy new? it all depends on which they are and how they look. The one being talked about in this thread using the tools shown to aid their removal don't see a lot of abuse, and very little pressures, so there is no reason to change it unless it is damaged.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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cOOL TOOLS!
Curious though, how many of you reuse the snap rings? Not saying its bad or good, just when you take the time to remove a tranny, and rebuild/repair, do you guys reuse snap rings? arent they fairly cheap to just buy new? If you use the proper tool to depress the clutch spring retainer, it makes it much easier to remove the snapring.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Works on other trans beside mopar. As far as changing snap ring, the ring could brake and the tangs on the retainer will hold it anyway, never seen a reason to change one in all my years.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Curious though, how many of you reuse the snap rings? Not saying its bad or good, just when you take the time to remove a tranny, and rebuild/repair, do you guys reuse snap rings? arent they fairly cheap to just buy new? The snap rings on the front clutch spring retainers can't pop off when correctly installed, there are tabs on the retainer to keep the snap ring in place and I've never seen one break.
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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Thanks for all the replies, I learned a lot. I ended up purchasing this one: Tool #1 For $23.00 shipped it actually worked very well for a Chinese tool. After I deburred the bottoms of the legs so all 4 would sit flush, Cleaned up the threads on the ends of the rod and cleaned up the threads in the base, it worked very well. I don,t have a clue what the wing nut is for as I used a wrench. Just thought I would share my results with you guys. Thanks, Jeff
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Re: Tools to remove snap ring on 727 clutch drum
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cOOL TOOLS!
Curious though, how many of you reuse the snap rings? Not saying its bad or good, just when you take the time to remove a tranny, and rebuild/repair, do you guys reuse snap rings? arent they fairly cheap to just buy new? Hanging around the maintenance guys at work, one guy told me that a snap ring like this should fit snug in the groove. The I.D. of the snap ring is slightly smaller then the O.D. it sits on. Before I assembled my drum I test fit the snap ring. It should turn by hand with a slight resistance. If it spins freely or moves side to side or is bent, it should be replaced. Same with the snap rings on the output shaft for the governor and bearing and the selective thickness snap ring on the front of the output shaft. Jeff
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