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#2159558 - 09/22/16 03:49 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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The Best of the Best small block guys are in on these. It's not a chicom head. realcrazy


Where are these heads cast at.... CHINA. Prove me wrong.

Whatever...Not worth the effort...it not my money wasted.


Edited by EV2Bird (09/22/16 04:01 PM)

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#2159633 - 09/22/16 05:56 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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So is the head any good for the price? What else is out there with the same flow for around the same money?
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#2160029 - 09/23/16 10:40 AM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: 67autocross]
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Originally Posted By 67autocross
So is the head any good for the price? What else is out there with the same flow for around the same money?


Call and talk to Rod Bloomer @ BPE. He might have other options for your needs.


Edited by clonestocker (09/23/16 10:40 AM)
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#2160334 - 09/23/16 05:10 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: EV2Bird]
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Originally Posted By EV2Bird
The Best of the Best small block guys are in on these. It's not a chicom head. realcrazy


Where are these heads cast at.... CHINA. Prove me wrong.

Whatever...Not worth the effort...it not my money wasted.


I'd agree..
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#2160426 - 09/23/16 07:41 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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Edited by EV2Bird (09/23/16 07:55 PM)

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#2160932 - 09/24/16 02:12 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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So these Heads are Chinese made junk and not worth the money from what you are saying, now I just need a suggestion on something in the same price point that is decent. Thanks
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#2160963 - 09/24/16 03:19 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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I sent you a pm.

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#2162818 - 09/27/16 12:48 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: 67autocross]
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I don't know where the casting is made but BPE has a great reputation, I would contact him with any questions. I don't own a set, I have some edelbrocks but these look like an OK deal when you factor the cost of quality port work into it. I think my heads were $850 to have ported?
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#2162841 - 09/27/16 01:27 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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Great heads, good people, my only issue is the low cost of the import castings vs the price to the end user.

Thats all.

$2200 for a modified version of the ripped off edelbrock design, thats not very American to me.

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#2162916 - 09/27/16 02:45 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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I got a chance to see the heads up close.
They are VERY nice. Beautiful port work, the casting quality of the head is super nice.
I would think the 225 version would be capable of supporting 650 horsepower.
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#2163868 - 09/28/16 06:01 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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I'm ordering a rotating assembly from BPE in the next few weeks but I think I will hold off on the heads until I find someone with some hands on feedback.
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#2164147 - 09/29/16 01:47 AM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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See if since your buying a kit if they would sell you a set at cost, it would help you and help them get some of there product out there.

There is where the problem lays, none out there in real use, for eaxmple Mike, MRL had great dyno numbers with the procpmps and so were the spinoff air wolfs.

I do know one set of AW-s dropped a valve on someone but no more info.

Ive had good luck with the china heads, one set with 3k street miles on them, and another on a spray motor.

Im sure these castings rock, they should bend a bit to get some out there and some product reviews.

AND a lower price, but in the end its up to them.

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#2169021 - 10/06/16 01:44 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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I don't know this Evbird clown but he sure is quite an expert


The heads are cast overseas. No one disputed that. But all the port development was done by Brett Miller and the heads are cnc ported and valve jobbed at bichoff.

An edelbrock is just a copy of a stock head and you can't argue that.

The fact is that if someone is willing to do anything for this hobby we should at least show a little respect.

But ev2 seems to be quite an expert so maybe he can tell us what HE HAS DONE for this hobby.


I'll await that response.

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#2169549 - 10/07/16 10:10 AM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: joshking440]
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Like I said: troll
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#2169658 - 10/07/16 01:12 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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I wrote a valid reply, but edited it to this.

Why dont you girl scouts stop nut hugging and if Rod has an issue or wants to clear up things on these heads, hes a big boy, right? And can do it himself.

Id think people have the right to know if a product is a low cost import casting or a higher cost USA product although the import casting is better quality.

Ive never said any negs. on the castings or the people involved and have bought from Brett in the past.

I sent one of you scout members a pm, man up if you have a personal issue with me and use the pm button.

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#2169788 - 10/07/16 05:11 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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I'm going to stick to my ported J heads for the build, by the time I get these heads up to Canada they will cost me $4000 with valves , springs ect so I won't be buying them until I get some type of feed back on them. I will be using a BPE rotating assembly just not sure what cubic inch to order yet.
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#2177042 - 10/17/16 03:01 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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As much as I appreciate everyone's opinion, I will say this. Nobody has any idea what I invested to purchase these cylinder heads, how many I had to buy, cost of R and D work, shipping back and forth, CNC work, valve job, travel expenses or the time I have taken away from my full time job to make this happen. I am trying to offer something that is better than what is available at an affordable price. That being said, most fully ported Edelbrock's come in at 190-195 cc's on the intake, my standard port is actually 206 cc's (advertised at 205). If all you think makes power is flow numbers, you are sadly mistaken. I honestly believe the CNC 220 head will make really good power numbers and perform well on the track. And for the record, so does Brett Miller and Tony Bischoff.

Some of the above comments are the exact reason no reasonable person will invest money into the SBM community. I'm not sure if some people just don't like me or what I'm trying to do. Maybe they just want to make themselves feel better but, I will continue on, trying to help the people and the sport I enjoy.

Rod

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#2177071 - 10/17/16 03:44 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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Thanks for posting Rod.

Ive been doing these heads for over 3.5 years.

I do know the ins and outs of these heads,castings, R@D and all that goes with it.

My only comments were about the cost, no more, no less and its just my opinion from first hand experience.

If ole Josh and Clontoker didnt feel the need to jump in on something they know ZERO about I was done with it.

Good luck with your heads, it just would be nice if the price was lower to the end user.


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#2177075 - 10/17/16 03:51 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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Carry on....




Edited by EV2Bird (10/17/16 04:16 PM)

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#2177196 - 10/17/16 06:24 PM Re: BPE Small Block CNC Cylinder Heads [Re: BPE]
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Just because you have some 3.5 year old ProComp castings doesn't mean anything to me. I have some of those here as well. How about you tell us what a quality casting with an intake,exhaust port and chamber that has been developed by a real SBM guy and CNC ported in addition to a valve job by one of he best engine builders in the country should sell for.

And for the record, it's easy to throw stones when you don't have any skin in the game. If you think I'm making $1000 a set you are out of your mind.

Rod

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