Sbm Victor head results
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Does anybody have any track feedback.. I know there was Dyno numbers kicked around... I have heard a lot of good and bad things about these heads... nothing like real world results..
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Aren't the exhaust bolt holes in the wrong position? Lot-o-money for a bonehead mistake.
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Exhaust pattern looks like a w2 to me. Nothing wrong with that. W2 header bolts are much higher.
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Headers will bolt up fine. Impressive Dyno results from the guy who did the Ritter deal. Can't wait to see how it runs when he gets it out
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Headers will bolt up fine. Enlighten me on how NON W2 headers.. or even W2 (excluding W8/9) headers won't block a third of the port..
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Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed
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Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed I agree... a header flange is NOTHING Unless you need somebody to build a set... $$$ ... just saying.
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TTI is making( or has made) a header for this application
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Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed I agree... a header flange is NOTHING Unless you need somebody to build a set... $$$ ... just saying. Worst case would be a simple redrill re-tap. Been there done that
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Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed I agree... a header flange is NOTHING Unless you need somebody to build a set... $$$ ... just saying. Worst case would be a simple redrill re-tap. Been there done that True that my friend. But on a $2k head?
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Please don't sweat the small stuff guys. As hotrodders I'm sure we can come up with a quick fix if needed I agree... a header flange is NOTHING Unless you need somebody to build a set... $$$ ... just saying. If you have to worry about simple headers flanges you better find a new hobby... you can make them yourself with a drill and air grinder if you want
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[quote=DARTH V8Я] If you have to worry about simple headers flanges you better find a new hobby... you can make them yourself with a drill and air grinder if you want Oh please Mike. Find a new hobby? LMAO. Where do you come up with this bullturd?
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the exhaust pattern.is a quick fix. Is it possible to go 8s in a 3000 pound car..with these heads N/A
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the exhaust pattern.is a quick fix. Is it possible to go 8s in a 3000 pound car..with these heads N/A Should be able to do that easily. 800 horse at 3000 pounds = solid 8's.
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[quote=DARTH V8Я] If you have to worry about simple headers flanges you better find a new hobby... you can make them yourself with a drill and air grinder if you want Oh please Mike. Find a new hobby? LMAO. Where do you come up with this bullturd? Thats how I started building headers before I bought a mill... yeah it took hours to build a single flange.. but I didnt want to blow the money for a set
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Did anyone ever say whether these could be used on a 48 degree block. I was offered a deal on an old R block and assembly that is pretty hard to turn down.
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[quote=DARTH V8Я] If you have to worry about simple headers flanges you better find a new hobby... you can make them yourself with a drill and air grinder if you want Oh please Mike. Find a new hobby? LMAO. Where do you come up with this bullturd? Thats how I started building headers before I bought a mill... yeah it took hours to build a single flange.. but I didnt want to blow the money for a set There comes a time in your HP life you have to learn where to draw the line. If header fabrication or having a set built isn't in your range of sight due to personal skills or cost.... maybe you better lower your view. Sounds to me like you are at the W5/chassis headers are readily available stage. I went in over my head and believe me, my fab skills are little to none. Cheap it's not, but if you're going to play.... well, you know the rest. Nice thing about a custom set of headers, well in my case, I can actually remove the headers without even jacking the car up or loosening the engine and they FIT!!!. These E brock heads are aimed a bit higher than your run of the mill small block build.
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Ya and I don't think they would work well with that stock cast iron intake manifold. Lol
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So what you guys are saying is when I bolt an expensive aftermarket part to an expensive aftermarket part with an expensive aftermarket part I should not be suprised when they don't fit. Fixed
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A Mopar part that needs "massaged" before fitting....now there's a shock. Are all these people bitching about parts not fitting new to Mopar stuff?
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The bolt pattern is for sure low for a W2, now I don't know how much wiggle room there is inside an 1 7/8" TTI W2 header, it might just end up at the top of the tube if the exhaust port is smaller than 1 7/8"?
I sure like the looks of these heads but for the cost I can be pretty far down the road on a G3 swap.
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Ohhhhh my God you had to drill new holes. Send them back for a refund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is a pic of the W2 headers installed. We drilled holes to match heads ,also the header bolts are 3/8.Stainless headers have the flanges made and in stock. And to answer the O P the heads are well worth the money and effort. Ours is in car and running but the converter was cracked around the weld and leaking so we had another one built and it is due in this week. Hope to run the car soon,but it's 100 degrees in Texas and I'm too old to put up with the heat
Ray Buckner Once again THANKS for providing lots of good info on your build. Its GREAT to see that some of us aren't afraid of a little work. I can't wait to see your track results and good-luck.
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Ohhhhh my God you had to drill new holes. Send them back for a refund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought the same thing. LOL
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Its GREAT to see that some of us aren't afraid of a little work.
Who's afraid?
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Did anyone ever say whether these could be used on a 48 degree block. I was offered a deal on an old R block and assembly that is pretty hard to turn down. Nope, so you should let me get that 48* R3 block.......
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Did anyone ever say whether these could be used on a 48 degree block. I was offered a deal on an old R block and assembly that is pretty hard to turn down. Nope, so you should let me get that 48* R3 block....... Its an R block which I guess is the same but different. He took the block and assembly to a machine shop today and may be available if you are interested. PM me your info and I will pass it on to him
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Its GREAT to see that some of us aren't afraid of a little work.
Who's afraid? must have been hard to type that with your other hand raised in the air
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Its GREAT to see that some of us aren't afraid of a little work.
Who's afraid? must have been hard to type that with your other hand raised in the air Haha.. funny lady we have here. Don't hate cuz I got more skill than you.
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Its GREAT to see that some of us aren't afraid of a little work.
Who's afraid? must have been hard to type that with your other hand raised in the air Haha.. funny lady we have here. Don't hate cuz I got more skill than you. I forget... who said the exhaust wont fit
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I forget... who said the exhaust wont fit And it don't.. so I forget, whats your point again? Oh ya... zippolla.
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I forget... who said the exhaust wont fit And it don't.. so I forget, whats your point again? Oh ya... zippolla. Mine is very simple.. MAKE IT WORK... this isnt magic... so what.. it takes a bit of work Its called hot rodding... things dont always work as planned
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Did anyone ever say whether these could be used on a 48 degree block. I was offered a deal on an old R block and assembly that is pretty hard to turn down. Nope, so you should let me get that 48* R3 block....... Its an R block which I guess is the same but different. He took the block and assembly to a machine shop today and may be available if you are interested. PM me your info and I will pass it on to him Not yet just messing with you, I will be hunting one here soon though.
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Did anyone ever say whether these could be used on a 48 degree block. I was offered a deal on an old R block and assembly that is pretty hard to turn down. Nope, so you should let me get that 48* R3 block....... Its an R block which I guess is the same but different. He took the block and assembly to a machine shop today and may be available if you are interested. PM me your info and I will pass it on to him Not yet just messing with you, I will be hunting one here soon though. Why don't you just buy Edvis's sloppy seconds?
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If Edelbrock is going to stick with their mistake, the least they could do is provide a second set of holes in the correct location. Ohhhhh my God you had to drill new holes. Send them back for a refund!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no that would make too much sense
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Say the exhaust bolts were in the correct space. Is the port located in the same place as a W2 port? As in I could take W2s off and put Victors on and not have to change headers?
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The header flanges and gaskets are now ready.The flanges are 3/8 thick stainless and are $75.00 each from Stainless Headers Mfg.The gaskets are Cometic
Ray Buckner Nice Are the TTI's going to be the same flange idea?
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