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426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? #2092026
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I am mocking-up my 426 Hemi without the rods and pistons but put the crank in with the old bearings and tightened the caps down. The crank turns freely but when I put the dampner on it hits the new Milodan oil pan where it bolts to the timing cover. The pulley's don't line up either, but I don't know if I have the correct ones yet. Anyone run into this issue? shruggy


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092030
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is the lower timing gear on the crank ?


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: CSK] #2092044
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No. There is no cam in it so I did not install the timing gears. So the are you saying the dampner will rest against the timing gear?


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092045
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Originally Posted By Rhinodart
No. There is no cam in it so I did not install the timing gears. So the are you saying the dampner will rest against the timing gear?



Yes, that was what he was saying. You need the gear on. The damper butts up against the crank gear.


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092047
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Hello Jimmy. Is the timing cover on?


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: RapidRobert] #2092063
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Yes the timing cover is on and so is the water pump housing. I never thought about what stops the dampner from bottoming out on the crank, now I know! realcrazy Guess I got to get the dampner puller out, take off the water pump housing and timing cover, and put the gear on... runaway

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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092066
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What is the diameter and height of the correct single groove crank pulley for a super stock Hemi?


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092153
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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092158
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Hey, Hey , stop pulling our legs. Someone with over 31,000 post doesn't know that the timing gear has to go on ? come on. And why is the timing cover and water pump on? painting ?


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092173
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Originally Posted By Rhinodart
Yes the timing cover is on and so is the water pump housing. I never thought about what stops the dampner from bottoming out on the crank, now I know! realcrazy Guess I got to get the dampner puller out, take off the water pump housing and timing cover, and put the gear on... runaway


You need the gear and the oil slinger on

Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092178
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Oil slinger is optional. twocents

Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: stumpy] #2092190
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I am mocking up the engine to install it in the chassis to make sure everything fits before I disassemble it for the machine work. I have other reasons to do it this way too, just can't talk about it yet. whistling I have never even thought about assembling an engine with no reciprocating assembly in it before, therefore it never dawned on me that I needed to put the crank timing gear on. shruggy


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: rowin4] #2092194
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Originally Posted By rowin4
Hey, Hey , stop pulling our legs. Someone with over 31,000 post doesn't know that the timing gear has to go on ? come on. And why is the timing cover and water pump on? painting ?


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: NANKET] #2092196
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Exactly. I am not a mechanic and never have been, I am a Mechanical Designer and Mechanical Technician and only play with grease and dirt after hours... biggrin


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092215
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Jimmy You're doing fine. when the time comes I may have a pulley for you


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092224
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Are you trying to use a street hemi balancer or a race Hemi or a aftermarket balancer? The pulley are not the same for each application tsk shruggy


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2092344
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I have the thick balancer.

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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092379
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Anudder pic... realcrazy

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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: Rhinodart] #2092387
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The stock 68/69-71 Hemi crank pulley is shorter than a stock B/RB pulley by about .75".

Put your water pump pulley on and pull the dampner out till the V belt grooves line up ,,, this is just mock up , no need to tear it all down to put the crank gear/oil slinger in place wink

Jim there are 2 hemi lower pulleys, it all depends on what water pump pulley you use. Up until ... I think .... sometime in 68 the Hemi used the standard B/RB waterpump pulley and had a very shallow crank pulley ... again "I think" ... that pulley is what the Milodon alum crank pulley is based off ? Then sometime in 68 Chrysler changed to the shallower Hemi only water pump pulley and the crank pulley was made a little deeper.


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Re: 426 Hemi dampner hits oil pan? [Re: JohnRR] #2092438
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OK, wasn't sure what I had. I bought the water pump pulley that Megaparts sells for 66-68 I believe. It is shorter and doesn't come close to the water pump bolts, so when I pull the dampner back where is should be they will probably line-up. up


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