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318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help #207207
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I have a '71 duster that I would like to get in the 7.80 or 7.90 range in the 8th mile. I say 318 because that is what I already have. I lost my job and dont have any money to go to any bigger
of an engine so I will try to stay with some of the items I already have.
Here's what I have in mind-
I have an 8.75 rear and would like 4.10 gears with super stock springs.
*2.02 j heads with mild port work
*Holley 3310-750 vac.secondary carb
*holley street dominator or eddy rpm air gap intake
*headers (hedman el cheapos)
*Lunati voodoo 494/513 cam
*double roller timing chain
*904 w/low gear set and manual valve body
Any suggestions??

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: DusterKrazy] #207208
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Ditch the 3310 for a 4150 carb. As much converter as you can stand and have fun, you should see high 7's without much trouble.


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Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: Triple Threat] #207209
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Ditch the 3310 for a 4150 carb. As much converter as you can stand and have fun, you should see high 7's without much trouble.


agreed, but you need more gear. one of the cars i sponsor from my shop had a 318 that had been bored with edel. heads and a comp. flat tappet cam that ran 6.90's. it had a 557 gear and 33" tires

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: DusterKrazy] #207210
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Since you dont have a job or money.... DONT start
building a race car, there is alot of important
things you could spend your money on

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: MR_P_BODY] #207211
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Since you dont have a job or money.... DONT start
building a race car, there is alot of important
things you could spend your money on





I agree with you, trust me. But I figure it'd be ok to fool with since I have lots of stuff laying around collecting dust

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Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help #207213
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Just one thing... Iīm building my 318 because here in Brazil we just have 318īs.

Everything arrives here for the double of the price... so... Itīs not cheap;;;


comparing the prices of parts for BB and SB... itīs almost the same.... so.. if you want to get the limit of your 318... it will not be cheap...


Use a NOS kit and you can make it cheaper!

BR,


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E100, boosted 390"

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: MR_P_BODY] #207214
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Since you dont have a job or money.... DONT start
building a race car, there is alot of important
things you could spend your money on





I am far from broke but with the econnomy and current politics my car is going to sit in the shop till we can DUMP ALL THE LIBERALS like a bad case of diahrea over the next few years. At this time guns and ammo especialy ammo should be one of your highest priorities only behind feeding the family and taking care of the house. LIBERALS Liberal lending and living beyond our means are the down fall of this nation if we all live within our means and take our time we can all have more in the long run than rushing to spend it all on bad investments like race cars they are hobbies and toys for all but a sellect few who can make a living at racing you need to worry more about how your going to pay off the new up coming stimulus or PORK bill the old one under Bush was pure B.S. this is more of the same ol $hit

Save Your Money OBAMY Biden Hary Nancy Barny and Billery

The liberals on the coasts are killing the center of this great counrty

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: W2DODGE] #207215
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W2DODOGE your post is so far out of line,it almost doesn't warrant a reply. that type of attiude is scary..."get your guns and ammo ready"..you have got to be kidding me..the poster didn't ask you anything about politics nor did he ask you for financial advice.If you were to read his original post you would see that he stated that he was using parts that he already had...he just ask for some input on what it would take to make his car go in the high 7"s..did you offer any information or insight on the original question?...sorry for the rant,but i found that very distrubing..as far as my suggestion for you combo...you need as much compression(i.e.have heads milled) and as much rear gear as you can come up with..along with the rest of your listed combo you should have no prob reaching the high 7's..

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Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: W2DODGE] #207216
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Since you dont have a job or money.... DONT start
building a race car, there is alot of important
things you could spend your money on





I am far from broke but with the econnomy and current politics my car is going to sit in the shop till we can DUMP ALL THE LIBERALS like a bad case of diahrea over the next few years. At this time guns and ammo especialy ammo should be one of your highest priorities only behind feeding the family and taking care of the house. LIBERALS Liberal lending and living beyond our means are the down fall of this nation if we all live within our means and take our time we can all have more in the long run than rushing to spend it all on bad investments like race cars they are hobbies and toys for all but a sellect few who can make a living at racing you need to worry more about how your going to pay off the new up coming stimulus or PORK bill the old one under Bush was pure B.S. this is more of the same ol $hit

Save Your Money OBAMY Biden Hary Nancy Barny and Billery

The liberals on the coasts are killing the center of this great counrty





Dude, this is the race forum. Save that for another venue.-Bob

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: racerAL] #207217
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W2DODOGE your post is so far outline it almost doesn't warrant a reply. that type of attiude is scary..."get your guns and ammo ready"..you have got to be kidding me..the poster didn't ask you anything about politics nor did he ask you for financial advice.If you were to read his original post you would see that he stated that he was using parts that he already had...he just ask for some input on what it would take to make his car go in the high 7"s..did you offer any information or insight on the original question?...sorry for the rant,but i found that very distrubing..as far as my suggestion for you combo...you need as much compression(i.e.have heads milled) and as much rear gear as you can come up with..along with the rest of your listed combo you should have no prob reaching the high 7's...




Whats scary is someone without a job spending money on a race car and others that encourage it where is the common cents race cars are a hobby a car to ge to work would be different it is closely related to our personal and governments lack of control to restrain our spending we need to stop and think about whats going on you dont give a drunk a beer or a drug addict more drugs or when you have or are about to over reach your means take out a bigger loan we are a me and now society not thinking about tomorrow. yes I may have ranted some but I think some conservative ranting could go along way to wake some others up we need to grow up and think about what is going on

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: W2DODGE] #207218
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Come on guys, let politics outside this forum....

this is for RACE fans not Politics...

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: dart_73_br] #207219
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granted, now probably isn't the time to be buying stuff for it, but you'll definitely need compression. I'd pick up a set of KB399 pistons (1.81 CH, 6.2CC dome), it'll probably be cheaper than milling the snot out of the heads. and if you have the heads and they have 1.88's in them, I wouldn't bother going to a 2.02 unless the heads need to be redone.


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Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: DusterKrazy] #207220
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I have a '71 duster that I would like to get in the 7.80 or 7.90 range in the 8th mile. I say 318 because that is what I already have. I lost my job and dont have any money to go to any bigger
of an engine so I will try to stay with some of the items I already have.
Here's what I have in mind-
I have an 8.75 rear and would like 4.10 gears with super stock springs.
*2.02 j heads with mild port work
*Holley 3310-750 vac.secondary carb
*holley street dominator or eddy rpm air gap intake
*headers (hedman el cheapos)
*Lunati voodoo 494/513 cam
*double roller timing chain
*904 w/low gear set and manual valve body
Any suggestions??




You might look at notching the edge of the block
for the 2.02 valve unless its been bore pretty good.
I dont know the cam you have there, whats the duration
on it. Like said already, put some more gear in it.
Get yourself a 750DP. What size tire are you planning,
what stall on the converter

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: W2DODGE] #207221
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W2DODOGE your post is so far outline it almost doesn't warrant a reply. that type of attiude is scary..."get your guns and ammo ready"..you have got to be kidding me..the poster didn't ask you anything about politics nor did he ask you for financial advice.If you were to read his original post you would see that he stated that he was using parts that he already had...he just ask for some input on what it would take to make his car go in the high 7"s..did you offer any information or insight on the original question?...sorry for the rant,but i found that very distrubing..as far as my suggestion for you combo...you need as much compression(i.e.have heads milled) and as much rear gear as you can come up with..along with the rest of your listed combo you should have no prob reaching the high 7's...




Whats scary is someone without a job spending money on a race car and others that encourage it where is the common cents race cars are a hobby a car to ge to work would be different it is closely related to our personal and governments lack of control to restrain our spending we need to stop and think about whats going on you dont give a drunk a beer or a drug addict more drugs or when you have or are about to over reach your means take out a bigger loan we are a me and now society not thinking about tomorrow. yes I may have ranted some but I think some conservative ranting could go along way to wake some others up we need to grow up and think about what is going on





Not to be crude or anything but where does it say Im spending any $$ on it? I lost my job due to circumstances beyond my control and yes Im sure I will have to spend money on it sooner or later yes but right now I was just asking advice to obtain a goal for a car that will "someday" hit the track. I lost alot and had to give up alot but what people dont realize is that fooling with these old cars takes my mind off things and makes life not seem as bad. My anti-drug as you could call it, so whats wrong with that?? If I sit around and mope about how terrible my life is and how dont have this or that, what good is that doing anybody?-myself of course included. Im 27 and I have goals in life but those goals dont include sitting around waiting on a handout or a freeride. Unlike most people my age, Im not out there dealing drugs. Im asking questions pertaining to something that has nothing to do with politics or religion. That's here nor there and way off topic. Im not snubbing or flaming on you, this world has more hate than it needs.
Good day
-M

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: MR_P_BODY] #207222
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I have a '71 duster that I would like to get in the 7.80 or 7.90 range in the 8th mile. I say 318 because that is what I already have. I lost my job and dont have any money to go to any bigger
of an engine so I will try to stay with some of the items I already have.
Here's what I have in mind-
I have an 8.75 rear and would like 4.10 gears with super stock springs.
*2.02 j heads with mild port work
*Holley 3310-750 vac.secondary carb
*holley street dominator or eddy rpm air gap intake
*headers (hedman el cheapos)
*Lunati voodoo 494/513 cam
*double roller timing chain
*904 w/low gear set and manual valve body
Any suggestions??




You might look at notching the edge of the block
for the 2.02 valve unless its been bore pretty good.
I dont know the cam you have there, whats the duration
on it. Like said already, put some more gear in it.
Get yourself a 750DP. What size tire are you planning,
what stall on the converter





Im undecided on the tire but the cam's duration
is 226/234 at .050 on 110 LSA. I have a coan 2800rpm stall converter for the 904.
Any opinions on a 4.30 or 4.56 gear?
Might look into a 750 holley double pumper later on as well. Thanks

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: DusterKrazy] #207223
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Im undecided on the tire but the cam's duration
is 226/234 at .050 on 110 LSA. I have a coan 2800rpm stall converter for the 904.
Any opinions on a 4.30 or 4.56 gear?
Might look into a 750 holley double pumper later on as well. Thanks




I would look at the 4.56, its more responsive to any
rpm chages you will need to make at the finish line
but you need to match the gear, tire with your RPM
that you'll turn and that cam is in the 5500 range

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: MR_P_BODY] #207224
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You might look at notching the edge of the block
for the 2.02 valve unless its been bore pretty good.





MR. P, youīre saying that the 2.02 valves could hit the edge of the block ?

I installed 2.02īs on my 318 and didnīt looked at this...

Re: 318 a-body wanting high 7's in 8th mile..help [Re: dart_73_br] #207225
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If you run the 4,10's I would go with the rpm intake.Try the 750 vacuum secondary first.I ran one on a 383 sbc and just new I would be faster with a 750dp.Did'nt run any faster but was more consistent at the track.

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You might look at notching the edge of the block
for the 2.02 valve unless its been bore pretty good.





MR. P, youīre saying that the 2.02 valves could hit the edge of the block ?

I installed 2.02īs on my 318 and didnīt looked at this...




No they shouldnt but they would be shrouded and the
notch will help out. The 273 block is the only one that
requires the notch..... as far as I know







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