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Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) #207155 01/28/09 09:17 PM 01/28/09 09:17 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S. M moparniac OP master
moparniac OP master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	Well some of you know I have made some good changes to my car...... its a 3800lb e body and need some good advice as last time at track I failed and changed to much crap at once and paid for it... anyhow.... 3800lb and best MPH was 124.43 what ET should have the car ran setup properly then ??? CHANGES FOR THIS YEAR...... nothing has been tested yet on new combo 11" Shelf Coan to Custom 9" .. same a a9seccuda runs (chip) SS Springs to Caltracs / Split monos CE on all 4 corners to Rancho 9 ways and calvert fronts 3.5"'s of Travel to 5"'s 26" tire to 28" fronts 28" Dot's to 30" rear Dot's No more front swar bar 8 3/4 (3.91) to Dana 60 (4.10's) Stage 3 Port Eddy Rpms 2.141.81 to MCH Max Wedge 2.191.81 Indy EZs 10.92 to 11.1 compression Same Roller cam 248/254 @ .050 will change by end of season! I have a full asst of jets now current BIGS dominator is 90 squared what et and MPH can I expect now set up properly and also some track day tuning advice and tips... Last edited by wedgeOmatic; 01/28/09 11:20 PM. Mopar Performance

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: moparniac] #207156 01/28/09 09:36 PM 01/28/09 09:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	I would think 124 mph would be upper 10`s and as far as where to start, you may be visiting the track a few times to figure that out. If you can, chassis tune that puppy first and get the afr`s close to save a bunch of money and time or even damage if its lean. Then start w/ proper tire pressures, leave rpm`s and shift points.....then of course there`s shock settings, squirteres, final jetting etc. Get the idea? 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: moparniac] #207157 01/28/09 09:39 PM 01/28/09 09:39 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	3800lb and best MPH was 124.43 what ET should have the car ran setup properly then ??? CHANGES FOR THIS YEAR...... nothing has been tested yet on new combo 11" Shelf Coan to Custom 9" .. same a a9seccuda runs (chip) SS Springs to Caltracs / Split monos CE on all 4 corners to Rancho 9 ways and calvert fronts 3.5"'s of Travel to 5"'s 26" tire to 28" fronts 28" Dot's to 30" rear Dot's No more front swar bar 8 3/4 (3.91) to Dana 60 (4.10's) Stage 3 Port Eddy Rpms 2.141.81 to MCH Max Wedge 2.191.81 Indys 10.92 to 11.1 compression Same Roller cam 248/254 @ .050 will change by end of season! I have a full asst of jets now current BIGS dominator is 90 squared what et and MPH can I expect now set up properly and also some track day tuning advice and tips... It should have gone 10.65 with your MPH. What was your old 60', with your new conv and the 4.10 you should be 60' a good bit better(take you gain in the 60' and multiply it by 1.5 for the ET change) Work on the 60' then work on mid track... top end tuning is MPH.... remember 1 thing at a time... write it down... if you have time back up the run to verify

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: MR_P_BODY] #207158 01/28/09 10:31 PM 01/28/09 10:31 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S. M moparniac OP master
moparniac OP master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	thx P yes 1 thing at a time for sure..... i am gonna start logging everything! Mopar Performance

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: moparniac] #207159 01/28/09 10:42 PM 01/28/09 10:42 PM
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Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	at 3800#s 124mph may not get you in the 10s imo.

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: Quicktree] #207160 01/28/09 11:29 PM 01/28/09 11:29 PM
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moparniac OP master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	the car came on strong after the 1/8 it seemed like... dunno I am not a track expert.. does this show anything? im pretty sure the 11" converter sucked..... lol 330 1/8 MPH 1000 MPH 4.791 7.34 96.7 9.556 124.43 Last edited by wedgeOmatic; 01/28/09 11:37 PM. Mopar Performance

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: moparniac] #207161 01/28/09 11:49 PM 01/28/09 11:49 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: the car came on strong after the 1/8 it seemed like... dunno I am not a track expert.. does this show anything? im pretty sure the 11" converter sucked..... lol 330 1/8 MPH 1000 MPH 4.791 7.34 96.7 9.556 124.43 Remember chassis is ET, HP is your MPH

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: Quicktree] #207162 01/29/09 12:43 AM 01/29/09 12:43 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma V Von master
Von master V Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,698 NE Oklahoma	Quote: at 3800#s 124mph may not get you in the 10s imo. Cant see how it couldnt? I ran 11.33 at 117.72 at 3800 lbs. 124 would get me a high .70 at worst. 72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: Von] #207163 01/29/09 06:39 AM 01/29/09 06:39 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S. M moparniac OP master
moparniac OP master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	sorry.. 10.96 is my best but pbody is right cause my 60fts have always sucked IMO and i feel i should have went quicker... the new converter and caltracs alone should help this do you guys think I should tune my chassis first and then mess with jetting ... I messed up bad last time and did both same day... lol Tires were et streets I had so much bad luck in 1 day! MSD chips were coming on 500 rpm early broke a kmotion k 1000 spring last pass kept bouncing of rev limiter pin for secondaires broke off some how and had to zippy tied the crap (external sec.) Alternator went out on me also and was running off battery kept recharging it off a jump.. plus I am just a track rookie i guess... this was all in one day with my new setup do you think I can get a 10.3 once dialed in.. Last edited by wedgeOmatic; 01/29/09 06:41 AM. Mopar Performance

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: moparniac] #207164 01/29/09 07:46 AM 01/29/09 07:46 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	you have the power, it's just going to take a little tuning to get where you want to be I think. I would set the jetting to factory specs and make a pass. you can then check the jetting and get an idea of what the chassis is going to do.

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: moparniac] #207165 01/29/09 10:03 AM 01/29/09 10:03 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	with my new setup do you think I can get a 10.3 once dialed in.. That 10.3 might be a bit much, I think a 10.5 might be about it Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 01/29/09 01:24 PM.

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: Quicktree] #207166 01/29/09 01:02 PM 01/29/09 01:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Quote: at 3800#s 124mph may not get you in the 10s imo. FWIW, here are some times from my Challenger last year running at 3750#s w/ similar MPH. 60 / 660 ET / 660 MPH / 1320 ET / 1320 MPH 1.481 / 6.776 / 100.17 / 10.720 / 124.12 1.479 / 6.768 / 100.34 / 10.696 / 124.72 1.474 / 6.742 / 100.85 / 10.662 / 124.69 It's all about the 60-ft.

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: moparniac] #207167 01/29/09 01:36 PM 01/29/09 01:36 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	After looking at your changes again, with the head work and bigger valves.... I think you will run a 10.4 at 128...... if you can max out the package. But its hard to say if your engine was near max to give you the currant 124 mph(if you were FAT or LEAN) you werent max HP, you made enough HP to run 124, see what I mean

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: MR_P_BODY] #207168 01/29/09 04:45 PM 01/29/09 04:45 PM
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moparniac OP master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	Quote: After looking at your changes again, with the head work and bigger valves.... I think you will run a 10.4 at 128...... if you can max out the package. But its hard to say if your engine was near max to give you the currant 124 mph(if you were FAT or LEAN) you werent max HP, you made enough HP to run 124, see what I mean when i did pull a plug the track day at the end p the plugs looked good to me.... with the BIGS 90 squared setup... plugs were autolite 3922's then... I have a pic of the plug somewhere... bRB. lol thx for the help guys brad H I have always admired your times and combo.. I think its one of the most effective combos on the site.. My car is a 72 Challenger btw Mopar Performance

Re: Needs Some early Spring Track Advice now... :0) [Re: moparniac] #207169 01/29/09 04:54 PM 01/29/09 04:54 PM
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moparniac OP master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	I forgot to mention I have put in a header evac system also... I cant find the pics of my plugs but the burn looked good... not lean at all.... Mopar Performance

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