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Re: restoring the undercarriage questions [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2050993
04/10/16 01:06 PM
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You are not working on a Jeep.

You have gotten good experienced advice on your kind of vehicle from a source that you sought out, but dismiss that advice in favor of one person's experience with a different kind of vehicle.

Good luck with your build.


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Re: restoring the undercarriage questions [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2051142
04/10/16 04:54 PM
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I know I am not working on a Jeep. Again, I appreciate the advice, but I would prefer to put a stock or optional system for that year on the car. I have a factory service manual for the car that my grand pop had gotten years ago. If something breaks, I'd at least have a resource to fix it. What torque do you tighten the other stuff down to? Would I have to get a separate service manual just for the different braking system?

Again, I appreciate everyones input but I want to keep the thing so I don't have to remember what or where something came from. If I wanted to build a hot rod, then sure, maybe I would go for something like that. That is not what my goal is.


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Re: restoring the undercarriage questions [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2051193
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Originally Posted By fuelishnsilly
I know I am not working on a Jeep. Again, I appreciate the advice, but I would prefer to put a stock or optional system for that year on the car. I have a factory service manual for the car that my grand pop had gotten years ago. If something breaks, I'd at least have a resource to fix it. What torque do you tighten the other stuff down to? Would I have to get a separate service manual just for the different braking system?

Again, I appreciate everyones input but I want to keep the thing so I don't have to remember what or where something came from. If I wanted to build a hot rod, then sure, maybe I would go for something like that. That is not what my goal is.



If you have a factory service manual it's all in there

Re: restoring the undercarriage questions [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2051200
04/10/16 06:22 PM
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Here's my :two cents:

I just finished a rotisserie resto on my GTS. The car was done with driveability in mind. I would like to think of doing something like this in stages. If major overhaul is what you have in mind start with dropping the k member assembly which includes the engine and suspension. Of course you'll need some front end stands with rollers

Next remove the engine and transmission. Now dis assemble the front suspension. Start cleaning. The k member will be the biggest challenge in getting cleaned. Hopefully you have a machine shop locally that has an old fashioned hot tank. Now order your suspension parts.

At this point start on the engine compartment. Remove from the engine compartment as much as you feel comfortable with. At this point scrub every thing down and pressure wash. Once it's dry tape off everything you didn't remove. At this point you can go ahead and scuff up the paint or just get someone to do touch up with an airbrush

When you get all the suspension parts set them aside and start cleaning upper A arms, lower A arms, torsion bars etc. once that's accomplish decide how detailed you want the suspension to be. You would be supprised at what you can do with a spray can of paint. This would be a good time to freshen the brakes

If the engine is good with no need for disassembly, same for the tranny now is the time to strip it and detail. Again lots of cleaning. Get yourself several cans of engine paint, I would assume Hemi orange and spray away. The tranny just needs some cleaning and a fresh coat of aluminum silver or a real light coat of gray. Owners preference. Once all this completed put every thing together on the k member and reinstall the the entire assembly.

The next step would be all the areas under the car to include addressing the brake lines, parking brake cables etc. is the car under coated? If so, again remove as much as you can, try and get the car up as high as you can and pressure wash. Once dry, tape everything off and reapply fresh under ciating by either a bomb can or purchase a under coating,/bed liner product such as Rhino liner.

Once all that's done re assemble and move to the rear of the car.


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Re: restoring the undercarriage questions [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2052481
04/12/16 01:25 AM
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I was able to get the rear wheels pulled off the car this weekend and I am glad that I did. The rear axle seal seems to have been leaking into the axle bearings and running out into the brakes. How can I tell if it ruined the axle bearings? How much play would be too much? Also, how do you get that seal all the way in the axle tube out? I don't have that special tool that is in the service manual.


inherited a 69 roadrunner from my grand pop.
Re: restoring the undercarriage questions [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2052573
04/12/16 05:23 AM
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Some undercarrige pictures in back of the album.. The tie rod sleeves usully have a dark steel look even if its stamped steel.


http://www.garaget.org/mypage/gallery.php?user=106330&album=43470

Re: restoring the undercarriage questions [Re: 71redcuda] #2052731
04/12/16 01:19 PM
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I enjoyed looking at your restoration pictures on your Mr. Mopar website.
Job done extremely well with much consideration for detail.
Thank you for posting.

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Re: restoring the undercarriage questions [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2052822
04/12/16 03:12 PM
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71redcuda,

Thank you for posting that wealth of information in the pictures. Are the e body components the same as the b body components for colors and stuff?


inherited a 69 roadrunner from my grand pop.
Re: restoring the undercarriage questions [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2053380
04/13/16 02:54 AM
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Wow 71 redcuda That is a Gold style Concourse resto you did !!!
I don't have that kind of time or money so I did mine the poor mans way, with paint. Lol
Beautiful Cuda !!!

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