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Re: nitrous bottle valve... [Re: tboomer] #2075087
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Bottles are all about the orifice and the dip tube. You can take the handwheel off, then loosen and remove packing nut and SEE how big orifice is. Also watch from opening and see how high it lifts. If it's not far enough, you can usually make some simple mods to help it.

But for YOUR application Chip and how much you spray.......anything that is NOT a medical grade valve will flow just fine

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Moparts official power adder thread #2081909
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6-71 Supercharger/harmonic dampener question

Hey guys, seeing we don't have the "Forced Induction" page here anymore, I hope those running 6/8-71 blowers can help guide me in the right direction?

1969 440/RB 6-71, I'm running a narrow 2 groove accessory crank blower aluminum spacer pulley to have PS/water pump and alt, along with the 3" belt drive, drive ratio is 1 to 1 (34 tooth approx 6" dia. IIRC)question is the balancer, run a new stock internal/neutral unit or a fluid unit?, if so, what brand/style?...cost is no issue, just quality/correct application is.

I feel the added weight along with the increase in tension and leverage on the crank snout may not be ideal for a factory style dampener?, or am I over thinking this?

I would like the dampener thickness to be in relation to the factory thickness due to space/alignment issues

Thanks
Mike

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2082071
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Never run a factory dampener with a blower. They come apart with the rapid accel and load put to them with a big roots.
The debate has gone on and on about blower engines using only a hub vs running a proper dampener. I would personally run a dampener on any engine I would build for myself. Many engine guys smarter than I will tell you a hub will do all you need as long as the blower belt stays on.


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2084822
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I keep hearing EFI is the way to go on a Procharger build. What direct port systems would you recommend for a blow through BB Mopar setup? Is Fast the only game in town? THANKS

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: DAYCLONA] #2084849
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Originally Posted By DAYCLONA


6-71 Supercharger/harmonic dampener question

Hey guys, seeing we don't have the "Forced Induction" page here anymore, I hope those running 6/8-71 blowers can help guide me in the right direction?

1969 440/RB 6-71, I'm running a narrow 2 groove accessory crank blower aluminum spacer pulley to have PS/water pump and alt, along with the 3" belt drive, drive ratio is 1 to 1 (34 tooth approx 6" dia. IIRC)question is the balancer, run a new stock internal/neutral unit or a fluid unit?, if so, what brand/style?...cost is no issue, just quality/correct application is.

I feel the added weight along with the increase in tension and leverage on the crank snout may not be ideal for a factory style dampener?, or am I over thinking this?

I would like the dampener thickness to be in relation to the factory thickness due to space/alignment issues

Thanks
Mike


You didn't mention it, but are you upgrading the snout keyway? And I thought a 3" cog style belt didn't need a lot of tension in a mid power application, therefore not over stressing/loading the snout with leverage, correct, anybody?
I'm leaning towards a procharger solution, but they suggest I use a big serpentine, since my application will see some road race, and with the constant quick up and down, they think the serp will be more forgiving. twocents


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Monte_Smith] #2085800
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Bottles are all about the orifice and the dip tube. You can take the handwheel off, then loosen and remove packing nut and SEE how big orifice is. Also watch from opening and see how high it lifts. If it's not far enough, you can usually make some simple mods to help it.

But for YOUR application Chip and how much you spray.......anything that is NOT a medical grade valve will flow just fine


What good is a 1/2" dip tube if the orifice is only .312"?


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: 70VcodeCoronetRT] #2086867
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Originally Posted By 4406forPOWER
I keep hearing EFI is the way to go on a Procharger build. What direct port systems would you recommend for a blow through BB Mopar setup? Is Fast the only game in town? THANKS


I would look at Holley dominator and Fuel tech. those seem to be what evryone is using these days.


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2087017
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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: DAYCLONA] #2092955
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In reply to the balancer, ATI makes the best 1 in my opinion, I run a hub, but plan on a ATI Damper setup. I haven't had any issues yet + add extra keyway as mentioned earlier

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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2092967
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Anyone know much about mechanical fuel injection tuning?
Had dual 1150 HP dominators on it, then converted to E85,& now mechanical injection E85, got base tune seems rich , blubbers then go's like hell, probably need to adjust spool in b.v. again & count amount of turns again.

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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: moparbob498] #2092975
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Oh ya, & re-check my idle & h.S. poppets ect..


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2093162
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The dual 1150's-&- now hat Injection

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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2093164
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The dom's

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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2093926
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1st attempt at making a pass, 1 of my Holley black pumps locked up during burnout, still had 5.5 psi. of f.p. so I went for it, blew the tires off, 1st - 2nd - 3rd, so fast I was barely able to shift before it hit the limiter, good lord, changed gear since then, had 4.88 on a spool W/33x16.5 M/T drag slicks @8 psi in them,...now have 4.10's W/ trak pak- (35 spline upgrade ect, Dana 60) now I'm worried about; I used a pro gear (guess its softer material for drag slick hard hitting shock ect) & I installed Richmond factory 4.10 ring & pinion,...
Other pic is "bug" catcher vs. "bird" - I wish I'd have kept the bug hat, I hooked a friend up with it, would've been nice to see performance difference between the 2 on my application. & yes guys I agree, the tech info & peeps with knowledge has dropped off significantly, & it saddens me, built my car thru these MoPar forums.

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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2095058
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Wow,i can't believe fye- no comment, no help with my car/entity combo, gearing, also have traction issues with axle wind-up ect.. need help & this is the most dead I've seen this site, very unfortunate,so much "really good technical info" here too...


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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2095194
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Sounds like you have a handle on what your doing. I'm an EFI guy, mechanical is not something I'm good at. Sounds like you need to lean it out a pill

Re: Moparts official power adder and EFI thread [Re: tboomer] #2096471
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For a custom home made EFI injector rail, which would be a better treatment, hard clear anodize for future possible E-85 use, or a ceramic silver chrome header coat to reflect heat? Not sure if ceramic covers much of the inside for any e85 resistance, if it even has any, in the first place. This a slant six turbo application, rail is mere inches away from and above the exhaust manifold.


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Re: Moparts official power adder and EFI thread [Re: tboomer] #2096507
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I would do black 2000* heat reflecting ceramic.

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: moparbob498] #2096515
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Originally Posted By moparbob498
Anyone know much about mechanical fuel injection tuning?
Had dual 1150 HP dominators on it, then converted to E85,& now mechanical injection E85, got base tune seems rich , blubbers then go's like hell, probably need to adjust spool in b.v. again & count amount of turns again.

Did you have your system flowed? I switched from dominators to mechanical and my throttle response went from lame to insane

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Originally Posted By moparbob498
Wow,i can't believe fye- no comment, no help with my car/entity combo, gearing, also have traction issues with axle wind-up ect.. need help & this is the most dead I've seen this site, very unfortunate,so much "really good technical info" here too...

What are you using for axle wind up now? I run caltracs, it seems to handle it. I switched to glide with a with a 1.69 gear and leave the line with 0 degrees of timing bring power in over 3 seconds

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