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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2041024
03/29/16 10:11 AM
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I'm starting a twin turbo hemi build. Still need the turbos and many other parts but it's a start.

that's a stock 440 gasket for comparison




Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: FastmOp] #2041146
03/29/16 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
I'm starting a twin turbo hemi build. Still need the turbos and many other parts but it's a start.

that's a stock 440 gasket for comparison






Wow monster difference in intake port size, FastmOp keep us update to date on the progress of the twin turbo hemi build.

I just received my pistons yesterday so its time to get the block in for final hone. Im still a couple months out but on track for june,july of this year.
I still got a ton of work to do but only time will tell.



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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Monte_Smith] #2041781
03/30/16 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
You need to look at the pictures of Wade's heads that Charlie Buck did. You don't soften up those B-1 chambers it will be VERY timing sensitive. Also the right camshaft is a MUST. Nearly impossible to get the numbers you NEED on a standard BBM core. Needs to be 55mm


My B1 Original Heads were done by MCH, and were opened up to 76cc chambers and the quench pad was also angle cut for nitrous. With 13.5:1 compression and a 93 jet (250 HP) in an IS plate, that motor only liked 18 degrees of timing when going down the track.

Granted, a different cam could have changed that a bit. It was a nitrous cam, and worked well.

Also, that was at Bandimere where the air is thin. So, at sea level would have wanted even less timing.

I agree with Monte that if you don't soften the chambers it will be very timing sensitive. Well worth the money in my opinion.

Mine made 650 to the wheels on motor, and 905 on the 93 jet.

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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: Leon441] #2045491
04/03/16 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Leon441
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Where is the perfect spot to install O2 bung in merge collector?

What is the best retard delay for annular fogger?

Same question for plate?

Back together with Charlie's chamber softening and valve job. Only took a couple cc's out of chamber. Nothing else. 48 cc P7. Large step header sound great. Hopefully really gonna free some power on top end.


Went testing. A 36 pill in a double cross on a dirt rd. of a track went 5.42. 13.5 a/f very light fuel ring on plug. Saturday starting line was sticky. 32/24 in a wacked off make shift annular nozzle hit like a brick. Having to relearn wheelie bar steering on the big tire. Huge difference from the old 4 jet spreads of back in the day. 12.6/ a/f on fogger. Probably go up .002 on the nos side to clean up. Big thanks on the suggestions from Monte over tge last year or so. The plugs look great so far as timing. This 32 pill with a clean tune feels better than the 40 pills back in the day.


Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2045796
04/03/16 11:28 PM
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Leon what did it run on the 32 pill? Sounds like it's really coming around

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: SpareParts] #2045826
04/03/16 11:59 PM
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Kid installed wheeli bars while I was building exhaust. He asked about a heim screwed out and I thought he was overthinking. Turns out I had a brain fart and the sticks were driving the car hard left. We never made it to the 60 under power. It leaves stupid hard on prepped track. Hopefully make more hits Friday.


Career best 8.02 @ 169 at 3050# and 10" tires small block power.
Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2045833
04/04/16 12:04 AM
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Awesome, please keep the results coming it's interesting to hear

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2046253
04/04/16 02:05 PM
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Congrats on getting back on the Jug

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2047827
04/06/16 11:55 AM
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I have been recovering from some of life's challenges with my engine,I hope to get back in the conversation.


GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads.
http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/
Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2048115
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Good thread! Never thought I would be interested in Nitrous but after seeing it being used a bit for strategy or "catch-up" in our local Super Pro bracket program I started giving it some thought. Recently picked up a "new" never installed Zex system with two bottles, it is for a dominator carb and tunable between 125 - 450 hp and also came with a new purge and bottle blow off kit, will be getting a bottle warmer kit to keep it at optimal pressure soon then put it all in. Best part is it all together was well under $500. smoke


Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2048172
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1 bottle should last you a while.


GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads.
http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/
Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2049937
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http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/
Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2050974
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http://www.enginelabs.com/mopar-big-bloc...t-of-necessity/
Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: FastmOp] #2053711
04/13/16 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
Does anyone run a Pro Mag 44 with EFI?


Of course. We do as do many heads up racers.

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2053779
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This is my 1st time dealing with a pro mag. If I remember right you run big stuff 3. Do you run it from the standard location or is it cam driven . What box do you use with it? What do you do to pull timing with the pro mag? Is it easily programmable.

I will be ordering parts later this summer and hope to have the hemi running next summer. Depends how this season goes with the wedge.

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2060768
04/24/16 01:01 PM
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I would look at putting coil on plug instead of the mag , it is simpler and less potential to go wrong . With the BS3 you would get traction control and a starting line retard built right in when you switch to the LS1 coil on plug system . It has a 24 tooth pick up wheel on the crank so timing is extremely accurate . My car sounds better better with the Coil on plug spark system than when it had a MSD 10 , not sure why but it does ? It end up being cheaper and has more options than the mag . Just something to think about .



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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2060851
04/24/16 03:03 PM
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I have the FAST black box with traction control now. I can add CoP but figured the Pro Mag would be better for lighting methanol.

Did you ever run a pro mag before the CoP?

I really don't want a pro mag sticking through the hood. I been looking at cam driven mags but would really like to put the fuel pump there. The CoP would go a long way to doing what I need but I worry about lighting 50+ PSI of boost.

Thanks for the ideas

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2060870
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If its good enough to make a car go 230 mph in the 1/8 , I am pretty sure its good enough for yours .


http://www.dragzine.com/news/carl-stevens-jr-makes-history-with-first-230-mph-doorslammer-run/



6.50 @ 226 MPH 4.25 @ 186 MPH
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Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2061865
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I hear everyday that COP is fine for nitrous cars, but doesn't work on turbos with methanol.......rubbish. They work just fine. In addition to car Go Green mentioned, there is also Tom Bailey who runs COP with a Holley box on his twin turbo methanol car and countless others. While SOME ECUs don't work well with COP, it's NOT the fault of the coils, they are plenty hot. There are also some screw blown EFI cars with COP

Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer] #2061972
04/26/16 12:57 PM
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Well I picked this up not sure what I'll do with it. I posted in General but figure this is a better spot. Thinking of using a 70-78 short bed 2wd pickup. Of course I'll have to upgrade the turbo..it was suggest I run it on propane and honestly the "mixer" set up isn't much more than a good carb. This will just be a street beater and see a drag race every so often. Looking at making a streetable 600hp. Anyway flame away. ozbbq

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