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#2291492 - 04/21/17 09:48 AM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: FastmOp]
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
The exhaust wheel and housing needs to be the biggest you can get. I run a 106mm turbo on an Indy -1 motor.


This power adder section should be named after Monte


You are so right! Thanks to the powers that be!
Race in Piece Monty!
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/nitrous-innovator-monte-smith-passed-away/
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#2291679 - 04/21/17 03:48 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer]
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If anyone wants to share some Monte nitrous tunes, post em up. Like jet sizes and such. I never messed with it much but now wish I had one of his setups for my Valiant.

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#2291692 - 04/21/17 04:06 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: FastmOp]
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
If anyone wants to share some Monte nitrous tunes, post em up. Like jet sizes and such. I never messed with it much but now wish I had one of his setups for my Valiant.


The purpose of Monte or any of the nitrous companies was/is their knowledge of cylinder heads, compression ratio, camshaft profiles, etc. which dictate jet mapping, fuel pressure and timing. There is no one size fits all.

Monte had done my work for many years and I will miss him!!!
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#2293147 - 04/24/17 09:19 AM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer]
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When wiring a progressive, which wires are the main ones to be concerned w/ as far as interference?...the grounds to the solenoids? The 12v activation?

I've always heard the Edelbrock controllers are REALLY sensitive to interference, but work great. I'm just using an older 2 dial controller for now, but really like the Leash products I've used in the past (on other people's cars) and will most likely end up getting one of their controllers when funds allow.
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#2293325 - 04/24/17 03:54 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: n20mstr]
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#2293458 - 04/24/17 07:26 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: FastmOp]
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
If anyone wants to share some Monte nitrous tunes, post em up. Like jet sizes and such. I never messed with it much but now wish I had one of his setups for my Valiant.


Induction Solutions has recommended jetting. It's a start. Much better than the old nos jetting. I end up taking fuel jet out from there.

I can't preach take plenty of timing out to be safe enough. If you are not detonating its harder to hurt it. Rich tunes are not safer tunes. It's nearly impossible to hurt something running too lean. Ever blow your racing dirt bike up running out of gas? Didn't think so. Now if you are detonating like crazy and stuff is about to melt, well you might hurt it. But, lack of fuel didn't do this. Detonation got it.

On new stuff start with a really lean hit. Run engine timing as low as possible and with a nice lean tune in carb. Pull plenty of timing. 2 per 50hp and some extra. Another 4 if you have a small quench.

To tune from here. Trim fuel pressure to see if you pick up mph. If not put it back. Take another degree of timing out. If it don't pick up put it back.
Add a degree of timing, try again. Key thing if the mph quits picking up put it back. New plugs pushed in the lanes and cut off at end of pass will give you the best reading. Plenty of this info on Induction solutions website. I run a little leaner than they recommend but great place to start.
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#2293635 - 04/25/17 12:01 AM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer]
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What would be a good starting point jetting for a fogger with E85? Looking for 28 jets for the nitrous, but what size fuel?
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#2293872 - 04/25/17 12:41 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: jyrki]
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Originally Posted By jyrki
What would be a good starting point jetting for a fogger with E85? Looking for 28 jets for the nitrous, but what size fuel?


With Induction Solutions help, I ended up at 0.030n and 0.028f jet on E85, 925psi Nitrous pressure. Fuel is usually around 5.75-6.25psi flowing depending on the air. We get some big weather changes here in update NY between daytime in July the cold November nights. I agree with Leon, start conservative with timing and fuel, tow up and back to get a good plug reading. My hoagie seems to like around 20deg in a 12:1 528ci, flat tops with Indy SR heads for reference.

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#2298638 - 05/03/17 11:03 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer]
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Best tuneup that worked for me...

Plate 70n 60f 5.0 fuel flowing
Direct port .036n .026f 4.5 flowing
Timing with it all on.... 8*

Reason for the low timing was the cam was not that nitrous friendly.

The real tuneup is give the motor what it wants, the right amount of fuel and timing. You need to be able to tell what it wants. Too much timing always hurts parts. So always retard it first, if adding timing doesn't pick up mph....you went the wrong way !
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#2298640 - 05/03/17 11:04 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: challenger451ci]
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Originally Posted By challenger451ci
Originally Posted By jyrki
What would be a good starting point jetting for a fogger with E85? Looking for 28 jets for the nitrous, but what size fuel?


With Induction Solutions help, I ended up at 0.030n and 0.028f jet on E85, 925psi Nitrous pressure. Fuel is usually around 5.75-6.25psi flowing depending on the air. We get some big weather changes here in update NY between daytime in July the cold November nights. I agree with Leon, start conservative with timing and fuel, tow up and back to get a good plug reading. My hoagie seems to like around 20deg in a 12:1 528ci, flat tops with Indy SR heads for reference.


How fast has it gone ?

Lol
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#2299319 - 05/04/17 11:32 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: n20mstr]
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Originally Posted By n20mstr
Originally Posted By challenger451ci
Originally Posted By jyrki
What would be a good starting point jetting for a fogger with E85? Looking for 28 jets for the nitrous, but what size fuel?


With Induction Solutions help, I ended up at 0.030n and 0.028f jet on E85, 925psi Nitrous pressure. Fuel is usually around 5.75-6.25psi flowing depending on the air. We get some big weather changes here in update NY between daytime in July the cold November nights. I agree with Leon, start conservative with timing and fuel, tow up and back to get a good plug reading. My hoagie seems to like around 20deg in a 12:1 528ci, flat tops with Indy SR heads for reference.


How fast has it gone ?

Lol


Not even remotely fast in your world! 3500lb streeter that sees mostly "highway" time. Was that 0.036 tune you mentioned above on E85 or gas? That sounds CLEAN for the corn!

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#2299744 - 05/05/17 07:19 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: challenger451ci]
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Yes race gas.
And it was 440-1 heads, small .680 roller, street able.
Went 5.30's at 132 @ 3350lbs
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#2300021 - 05/06/17 10:01 AM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: n20mstr]
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That's makin time! I'm hoping for .50's this year with my barge. I think it's gonna need a little more jet depending how early I can get it all in.

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#2300156 - 05/06/17 01:26 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: an8sec70cuda]
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If this thread was given it's own forum traffic would most likely pick up.
Not being able to post "new" topics to search by is a little gitchy.
Replying in one loooong thread there is no way to tell what topics are covered without reading the whole thing.

jmo


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#2300174 - 05/06/17 01:52 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer]
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Monte Smith's MoPower Adder forum.

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#2300676 - 05/07/17 11:31 AM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: FastmOp]
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Originally Posted By FastmOp
Monte Smith's MoPower Adder forum.

So much knowledge,lost way too many in the last few years.Still having a hard time dealing with it,,,,,,,,, frown


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#2300804 - 05/07/17 05:06 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: tboomer]
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Would love to get a sticker like that.
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#2300933 - 05/07/17 09:39 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: one bad fish]
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Originally Posted By one bad fish
Would love to get a sticker like that.


Why ? You don't use a power adder
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#2300937 - 05/07/17 09:42 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: challenger451ci]
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Originally Posted By challenger451ci
That's makin time! I'm hoping for .50's this year with my barge. I think it's gonna need a little more jet depending how early I can get it all in.


Here is a Monte trick, hit it as hard as you can for the first two tenths, then pull your launch timing out. Monte said, everything dead hooks for two tenths...
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#2301303 - 05/08/17 05:09 PM Re: Moparts official power adder thread [Re: n20mstr]
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Good stuff, keep it coming!

RIP buddy!

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