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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
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Elmor that is an excellent reminder on using tranny fluid & yes it does work well. Savoy that is 2 posts in a row from yoou which added nothing (constructive) to the thread & what is (the popo couldn't be outran) that you added to my quote? So I should live(post) by your rules? get over it.
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
[Re: Adam71Charger]
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People scoff, but i have ran old engines like that without changing stuff. Just opens a can of worms and worry like you have about the ridge reamer. Sure it wont have great ring seal. Psi might be a little low. If things are real bad you can just throw a hv pump on it until next winter...
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
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Elmor that is an excellent reminder on using tranny fluid & yes it does work well. Savoy that is 2 posts in a row from yoou which added nothing (constructive) to the thread & what is (the popo couldn't be outran) that you added to my quote? So I should live(post) by your rules? get over it. 
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
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I dropped off the crank today. He inspected it and said one of my main journals had a .002 flat spot. Said it would still be good with a 10 under grind.
What would cause that? I was thinking misfire from mixed up spark plug wires I doubt that was caused by a misfire unless it was misfiring like that for thousands of miles . It was probably like that from new ... it's a spot to hold OIL  You won't know what you did to the block with the backyard hack boring bar till you get a rigid hone in it.
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
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Oil the bores generously before, during, and after honing.
I'll let the others tackle the cam. Mine tend to lean towards the more conservative side.
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
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Ok Ive got my block fully broke down and mostly clean. Gonna hone then get it as clean as possible and ready for rotating assembly install.
I need to start thinking about my top end. Im buying 440 source stealth heads. I was open to iron heads, but the cost to get them rebuilt with minor porting was close to the cost of the stealths so Im going stealth. They advertise .510 max lift
Im looking at Camshafts. To sum up again, my b body is 4000lbs with driver. 727 auto, somewhere between 3000-3200 stall converter, dana 60 4.10 rear, rear wheels are 15x10 will have probably be 28" tires. manual brakes. Frame connectors.
In the area I live I can beat on the car hard. High rpm shifts and launches. WOT as much as possible. The car is built to be fun.
What camshaft would suit me best? what intake and carb would you use with it? There are guys that really like the Hughes "whiplash" cams. I do not personally have one - but some other guys here have them. Whiplash
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
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I would give Jim a call at Racer Brown Cams. GREAT guy to work with. http://www.4secondsflat.com/RB%20Cam%20Specs.htm
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
[Re: Adam71Charger]
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I think you should call dwayne porter. Have him prep the heads and he can give you cam advice. That'd be what I'd do.
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
[Re: Adam71Charger]
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I forgot about racer brown. I would have been calling around today except by the time I was ready to start, they are all closed and not open tomorrow so I thought I'd get some recommendations from you guys over the weekend You can call Jim tomorrow ( Saturday) to pick his brain. Jim works later in the day and don't forget about EST. His hours are listed on the link I posted.
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Edelbrock headed 408
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422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
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I forgot about racer brown. I would have been calling around today except by the time I was ready to start, they are all closed and not open tomorrow so I thought I'd get some recommendations from you guys over the weekend You can call Jim tomorrow ( Saturday) to pick his brain. Jim works later in the day and don't forget about EST. His hours are listed on the link I posted. Hey wait, is Jim the guy that owns FBO or is he Racer brown, or are they the same thing?? I bought a locked out distributor from fbo once
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
[Re: Adam71Charger]
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I forgot about racer brown. I would have been calling around today except by the time I was ready to start, they are all closed and not open tomorrow so I thought I'd get some recommendations from you guys over the weekend You can call Jim tomorrow ( Saturday) to pick his brain. Jim works later in the day and don't forget about EST. His hours are listed on the link I posted. Hey wait, is Jim the guy that owns FBO or is he Racer brown, or are they the same thing?? I bought a locked out distributor from fbo once Two different guys. I just grabbed the link off that site. Jim may ask for flow numbers from your heads and what you are planning to do with it. (street, street n strip, race ) The Stealths are a nice head but in truth on a CALIBRATED flowbench max out at 260-165 cfm. not the 290 I see advertised. Way more than enough to get your goal of 400.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
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Before you buy the stealth heads check out the sidewinders. mopartsracing.com Todd Marsh ( Marsh Performance) posts on here occasionally. He will set them up with the springs you need. Ready to go. Call him.
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Re: Can I achieve 400hp with a late 70's 440 on a $2000 budget
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Before you buy the stealth heads check out the sidewinders. mopartsracing.com Todd Marsh ( Marsh Performance) posts on here occasionally. He will set them up with the springs you need. Ready to go. Call him. Definitely call Todd, good guy,great prices.
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