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Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed #199731
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Since I guess nobody makes or at least I cant seem to find a 28x10 radial slick (not street radial, full racing slick); is any one brand of bias slick more stable at speed than others?

In the past Ive only used MT slicks. I had a set of 26X8s that were way squirrely on top. Set of 28x10s that werent near as bad.

Just looking for some opinions.

Thanks as usual.


72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: Von] #199732
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If you had enough air in it and you still felt it
was loose on the top end go with a stiff sidewall
or put tubes in them
EDIT
sorry you said no full slicks

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Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: MR_P_BODY] #199733
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sorry you said no full slicks





No, Im looking for full slicks.


72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: Von] #199734
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Your car didnt pick up using the ET street radials? I picked up over .400 going to the street radial from the ET slick and dropped 60' time from 1.47 to 1.36....Phill

Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #199735
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Your car didnt pick up using the ET street radials? I picked up over .400 going to the street radial from the ET slick and dropped 60' time from 1.47 to 1.36....Phill




over a tenth 60 ft. by going from slicks TO Drag Radials?!!! no other changes? Really?


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Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: StealthWedge67] #199736
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My son and I both like the way out Hoosier QTP tires handle. They are a bias street leagal tire that is basically a slick with 2 treads on them. But I plan to try a 30 x 9 radial slick on my 63 this year as I can get a good set for FREE ! I hope to try them in late March or early April. Ron

Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: 383man] #199737
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Von, I like Phoenix tires.

Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: Von] #199738
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Actually in my experience M/T's have a stiffer sidewall than many. If you were unstable at speed I'd say that you were underinflated or undersized. Street/strip radials require some pretty specific chassis tuning to work real well. I suggest you stay away from them unless they are required to make a class. ET streets both biased and radial(see above comments) work pretty well with the biased a little more consistant and the radial a touch quicker.

Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: StealthWedge67] #199739
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Your car didnt pick up using the ET street radials? I picked up over .400 going to the street radial from the ET slick and dropped 60' time from 1.47 to 1.36....Phill




over a tenth 60 ft. by going from slicks TO Drag Radials?!!! no other changes? Really?




Yes, ask some guys here, most will say that the street Radials are faster then the slicks by a few tenths on a good track, my old car always hooked unless the track was way bad....Phill

Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: BobR] #199740
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If you want to run a slick go with a radial. They will be faster and more stable than a bias tire. I've run 9x30 and 10.5x30 radial slicks and they handle like a street tire. No tail wag at all. The only disadvantage is they will spin easier on a marginal track than a bias tire. They also don't recover once they break loose like a bias. Run 18+ psi in them and don't do much of a burnout. They also seem to last longer than a bias tire. They also don't grow like a bias tire which is good if your clearances are tight.


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Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: Troublemaker427] #199741
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If you want to run a slick go with a radial.




Id like to but as I said, I cant find one short enough. I dont want to change gears just to run a radial slick.


72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: 383man] #199742
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My son and I both like the way out Hoosier QTP tires handle.




Ron, I tried the QTPs when they first came out. I couldnt get a bite with them. I also didnt care for the way they handled on the street. I know alot of guys like them, but they didnt work so well for me.

Wish I could find a set of slicks for free!


72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: BobR] #199743
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Actually in my experience M/T's have a stiffer sidewall than many. If you were unstable at speed I'd say that you were underinflated or undersized. Street/strip radials require some pretty specific chassis tuning to work real well. I suggest you stay away from them unless they are required to make a class. ET streets both biased and radial(see above comments) work pretty well with the biased a little more consistant and the radial a touch quicker.




Bob, I am using ET street radials now. On my car they are touchy to PSI, a hair too much or too little and they wont bite. When they bite, they bite good.

My best 60 is only 1.60, so I was gonna try a set of slicks and see if I can improve on that.

'Course I still only have 4.5 inches of travel in the front. Calvert is dead set you need 5 inches minimum. The car trys to transfer weight then unloads too quick. I also havent played with the bars and rear shocks enough.


72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72. Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: Von] #199744
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Heres a pic of the cuda on MT street radials, 1.36 60' Times. This pic is almost at the 60' box and still hanging the hoops. Not bad for a street car.

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Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: Von] #199745
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If you have stability problems, make sure your wheel width is wide enough. Most Stock racers use 10" rims with 9" slicks. Worn rear or front suspension components can also be a factor.

I use Hoosier lightweight radial slicks. But I usually run on pretty well prepared tracks. Hoosier does have a variety of sizes to choose from and a call to them could also be helpful.

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Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: Von] #199746
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I like McCreary road Starts for a car that's driven on the street. They have good trad and are nice and soft. They are for dirt track cars. They might not be up to 11.3's thou, plenty for 12.0's

Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: 9 Sec Phill] #199747
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Heres a pic of the cuda on MT street radials, 1.36 60' Times. This pic is almost at the 60' box and still hanging the hoops. Not bad for a street car.




Phil, how much spray on that launch... looks good

Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: Von] #199748
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Actually in my experience M/T's have a stiffer sidewall than many. If you were unstable at speed I'd say that you were underinflated or undersized. Street/strip radials require some pretty specific chassis tuning to work real well. I suggest you stay away from them unless they are required to make a class. ET streets both biased and radial(see above comments) work pretty well with the biased a little more consistant and the radial a touch quicker.




Bob, I am using ET street radials now. On my car they are touchy to PSI, a hair too much or too little and they wont bite. When they bite, they bite good.

My best 60 is only 1.60, so I was gonna try a set of slicks and see if I can improve on that.

'Course I still only have 4.5 inches of travel in the front. Calvert is dead set you need 5 inches minimum. The car trys to transfer weight then unloads too quick. I also havent played with the bars and rear shocks enough.




Have you tried ET streets biased? They may work better for you. The Calvert bars do need a full 5 or more but you may be able to bandaid with the correct tires.

Re: Slicks, Best brand for stability at speed [Re: MR_P_BODY] #199749
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Heres a pic of the cuda on MT street radials, 1.36 60' Times. This pic is almost at the 60' box and still hanging the hoops. Not bad for a street car.




Phil, how much spray on that launch... looks good





Raff, that was with a 200 HP hit,it ran 10.30's in the pic, but found out later that the NOS line was 85% blocked off with some lint in the filter screen. Once I got that out it ran 10.teens at LVD on the same jetting.

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