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#1995118 - 01/20/16 05:02 PM 72 "Gold Duster" Build
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Rich Cranium

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And appropriately enough it is Gold.
Dad decided he wanted something a little less "flashy" than the Banshee Dart so this is going back together as a sleeper.
I picked this up in the fall with plans for a new build for him.
Body is solid and the paint is...well I can live with it.
Plan is to remove the 225 /6 and 904 along with the 7 1/4 and replace them with a 416-727 and 8 3/4.
I do need to come up with a dash pad as this one is toast.
I'm sure I'll have to source a bunch of other parts along the way...


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#1995123 - 01/20/16 05:09 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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The plastic trim on the body is the only thing I will be removing from the exterior.
I picked up a set of Wilwood disc brakes for all 4 corners and am re-using a 65 B Body 8 3/4 I had laying around along with a set of 4.56 gears.
Plan is to use Cal Tracs rear suspension and tie the frame together with the kit from US Cartool. It got backed into the garage today to begin the transformation after removing the stinking gas tank and lines outside a month or so ago.


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#1995137 - 01/20/16 05:45 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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That's the last pic there will be of this outside until it rolls out in the spring under it's own power. up


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#1995182 - 01/20/16 07:35 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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That body looks REALLY nice! Is that original paint?

Either way, since you're not doing a repaint, I would proceed carefully on the side moulding--even if you successfully remove it without damaging the paint you will very likely be left with a fading issue as evidence the moulding used to be there.

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#1995227 - 01/20/16 08:57 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: Pacnorthcuda]
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Rich Cranium

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The car was painted in 1993 when the 1/2 vinyl top was removed. It just looks like enamel...not base-clear. The moldings were added around 2010. Why is a mystery but by being garage kept it may not hurt it.
There's one small spot that is loose and doesn't look any different under it. I'll definitely be proceeding with caution while using a small heat gun or hair dryer. up

I could maybe leave them on if they were straight. The DS doesn't look too bad but the PS is up and down... shruggy


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#1996542 - 01/22/16 05:21 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Nice project looks simple and easy which none of mine ever turn out to be
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#2027119 - 03/08/16 08:42 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: 67mprfan]
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Rich Cranium

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Loc: Western Md.
I ordered a set of the US Car Tool frame rails to tie this together.
Dad is adamant that he does not want a roll cage so these should work well with no severe modifications.
The floors underneath look clean...someone had glued the replacement carpet down which made it a real PITA to get out and remove all the glue.


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#2027121 - 03/08/16 08:45 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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Up in the air for cleaning the floors and frame rail tie in... up


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#2027424 - 03/08/16 05:30 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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OH MY GAWD!!! LOOK AT THOSE 'JACK STANDS'!!!! eek
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#2027604 - 03/08/16 09:05 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Man that thing is clean!! So nice to see and unrusted car theses days. Looks like a fun project, keep up the great work!
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#2028182 - 03/09/16 08:00 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: NV69B7RR]
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Rich Cranium

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After everything I've seen or that was discussed about welding the frame connectors in this was the best way to have all the actual weight on the suspension and still be in the air. Would you rather see a pic with four CHROME jack stands? biggrin
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#2030975 - 03/14/16 01:52 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Chrome is good. "The More Chrome The Better" up
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#2078771 - 05/23/16 10:34 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: amxautox]
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Rich Cranium

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Since the "Garden" is more important than the car...forward progress has been lacking... whistling
Both of the new frame rails from US Car Tool are mocked up, trimmed and ready to be welded in.
These fit pretty decent and are definitely better than cutting the floors for box tube rails when you may not need them. twocents
Below is how well they fit in...once the ends are tacked in I can adjust the floors in the center to help close up any gaps...


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#2078775 - 05/23/16 10:36 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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All in all I think these are a worthwhile addition... twocents


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#2092890 - 06/16/16 07:57 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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The new US Car Tool frame rails are welded in.
They fit pretty good.


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#2092891 - 06/16/16 08:00 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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Inside the floor all you see is the spot welds and they're kind of hard to find.
Man its nice not having to do a bunch of rust repair for a change... up


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#2092893 - 06/16/16 08:04 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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The new 002 and 003 rear leaf springs are going in now with the 65 B Body 8 3/4 with 4.56 gears.
Here's a pic of the sliders were using on this at the rear.
The front spring hangers have been moved back 3/4".


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#2092894 - 06/16/16 08:07 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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The wildwood brake parts for the front and rear.
Definitely the best way to convert a 4" bolt pattern car to 4 1/2" bolt pattern.


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#2092899 - 06/16/16 08:15 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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The /6 and trans is out now and the under hood cleaning has begun. As much as I'd like to I don't think the original paint is good enough to just clean it all up. There's a few areas where its loose and peeling so we're probably going to have to re-spray it. runaway


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#2092901 - 06/16/16 08:19 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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This is just for you Tom...

There's also a couple pics of the 416 that will go in later and a bunch of /6 parts for cheap if anyone can use them...


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#2131190 - 08/12/16 01:25 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Cool build, I love sleepers!

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#2186870 - 10/31/16 04:00 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: crlush]
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Rich Cranium

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Dad has managed to get the 65 B Body 8 3/4 back in with new axles from Dr Diff and the Wilwood brakes on.
We flipped the front spring hangers upside down and moved them back 3/4". The rear of the springs have sliders rather than shackles.
The 15x7 steel wheels I have on in the pics are 4 1/4" back space but the 27.5" tires have a very wide section width compared to the tread. (9 1/2" section width...6" tread...7" wheel)I didn't really trust them for an accurate back space due to the increased section width as it relates to the tires position to the leaf springs.


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#2186873 - 10/31/16 04:08 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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I unbolted the 17x9.5 5 1/5" back-space wheels from my Satellite and bolted them up to see how they fit. These tires are 275/60/17's and measure almost 30" tall.
The true 5.5" backspace gave me 1" of clearance to the springs on the inside.
The tires on these have an 11" section width with a 9.5" tread on a 9.5" wheel.
5.5 is what I am ordering rather than trying to push the limit with a 6" back space not knowing if a wider tread tire may have more section width.


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#2186875 - 10/31/16 04:17 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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I pulled the trigger on these wheels from summit with a full set of lug nuts for the 60 degree conical seat.
Fronts... https://www.summitracing.com/parts/VSW-521H5465P-19
Rears... https://www.summitracing.com/parts/VSW-521H5165P0
Lugnuts... https://www.summitracing.com/parts/GOR-45088-20
I thought the price on these were excellent! boogie
4 wheels with lugs for less than $500.00 shipped to the door. up
Here's a few other pics of the 17" wheels and how they fit...

Also a big Thx. to Cass at Dr. Diff for walking me through what needed to be done to the brake parts as Wilwoods design wasn't exactly correct.


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#2187713 - 11/01/16 08:39 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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The new wheels arrived and I mocked one up.
I like these lugs a lot better than the fighting the shouldered ones...
Now I need to start looking at tire combinations...
Dad wants radials...No more bias...Maybe a set of MT ET Streets... shruggy


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#2189408 - 11/04/16 11:20 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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V8 K frame is back from the sandblaster. I'll add a little extra welding and some etching primer for now.
I think were going to assemble everything and install the engine, transmission, headers and suspension thru the bottom with a dolly.
Also decided that with winter coming to add a 13' x 24' lean to on the end of the garage to house the Duster for the winter and provide an area separate from the Dart to control the mess in the garage... up


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#2189910 - 11/05/16 07:55 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Multi-tasking is good up Remodel the kitchen while you're at it? lol

I like the father-son projects a lot. This one should be a blast!
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#2190990 - 11/06/16 07:17 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Great job keep up the work
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#2198303 - 11/17/16 09:34 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: 67mprfan]
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Rich Cranium

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Moved the Duster over into its temporary home for now.
Dad wants to keep it rolling to push in and out while the addition gets finished on the inside.
It delays any work being done on the car but when it gets cold will provide a good place to do it...a trade-off of sorts I guess...


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#2246872 - 02/03/17 08:07 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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After seeing what some others are doing as far as lightening and cleaning up their K frames eek I started working on the one for the Duster today. It's a little rough around the edges so it won't be a show piece but I can knock off some weight and neaten it up some... devil
Here are some before pics...


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#2246874 - 02/03/17 08:10 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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A couple more... whistling
After some chopping...welding...cussing and grinding I'll post up a couple finished pics... up


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#2247109 - 02/04/17 08:56 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Sleeper patina cars are awesome.

I just picked up a 72 Challenger I plan on doing the same thing......
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#2380479 - 10/02/17 09:19 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: rocksmopar]
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Rich Cranium

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Dad has been working on the Duster nearly every day since his garden slowed down. All of the inner fenders have been sanded and primed...
The undercoating was removed from the inner wheelhouses in the front.
K frame is finished and in primer.


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#2380482 - 10/02/17 09:22 AM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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A couple more pics...Thought I had some of the K frame but??? shruggy


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#2385951 - 10/11/17 08:54 PM Re: 72 "Gold Duster" Build [Re: skicker]
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Rich Cranium

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Dad has been working on this nearly everyday now.
We mocked the K frame back up in it to let it roll around as he wants to clean the rest of the rear unibody. Somebody take notice to the spindles. They're the stock ones for 10 brakes but I think he has them mocked up on the wrong sides... shruggy
Let me know if they are so I can get them swapped around when everything goes back together permanently...
Does it matter using the aftermarket Wilwood calipers and brackets? work


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