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Valve Cover Hell #1992585
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What started out as an easy fix has gone South fast on me.
Always seems the easy stuff gets side ways.

I was replacing a leaking valve cover gasket.
I snapped off a bolt......

I cut a groove in the small piece that was above the head, but the groove was not deep enough for a screw driver to get a bite.

I tried an "easy-out" drill bit.....can't get it to bite when I reverse it out.

I need some help here.
Any ideas.....

I need to get this taken care of and get rolling ....

Thanks
Matt

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What's this on?
Sounds like you might have to drill it out and re tap

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easy out drill bit?

Not sure what that is, an easy out is a tapered left hand flute device, not a drill bit.

Some people use a left hand thread drill bit as an easy out like device though it isn't one and doesn't always work.

Try a real easy out. If you have some small square stock you can grind a taper on it and use it as a removal tool in a pinch. Sometimes you can use a torx screwdriver as a removal tool.


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Sometimes with stuck bolts I heat it and touch some wax to it to melt around the threads. Then usually the bolt comes out pretty easy with a reverse left handed drill bit.

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If you have a welder you can weld the end of an allen wrench or something similar to it & back it out.

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Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA
If you have a welder you can weld the end of an allen wrench or something similar to it & back it out.


i sorta did this on a garden tractor starter bolt that snapped off. JB Weld to another bolt and 2 days of waiting...

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I think he was referring to one of those drill bits that you drill it CCW with a reverseing drill & they work occaisionally on softer material but I'd say the odds ain't good here. As said I'd just drill it out (normally) & corral the shavings (greaseing the bit helps)


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Originally Posted By RapidRobert
I think he was referring to one of those drill bits that you drill it CCW with a reverseing drill & they work occaisionally on softer material but I'd say the odds ain't good here. As said I'd just drill it out (normally) & corral the shavings (greaseing the bit helps)


do a google search ( picture of easy out tool )

I did this with the same problem.
I used an 1/8" drill bit -
drilling to the bottom - apx 1 1/4" max.
then I used an 3/16" -1/4" drill bit same thing.
using the easy out tool after torching to warm it up,
brought it right out.

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Re: Valve Cover Hell [Re: 440whiteboy] #1992982
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Originally Posted By 440whiteboy
Originally Posted By RapidRobert
I think he was referring to one of those drill bits that you drill it CCW with a reverseing drill & they work occaisionally on softer material but I'd say the odds ain't good here. As said I'd just drill it out (normally) & corral the shavings (greaseing the bit helps)


do a google search ( picture of easy out tool )

I did this with the same problem.
I used an 1/8" drill bit -
drilling to the bottom - apx 1 1/4" max.
then I used an 3/16" -1/4" drill bit same thing.
using the easy out tool after torching to warm it up,
brought it right out.

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Thanks for all the replies
I spoke to a friend
He told me the same thing as pictured " a real bolt puller"

Hopefully I will get it out this week and be rolling in my U code Challenger.

Thanks Matt

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I've had some success welding a nut to a broken bolt and turning it out with a normal wrench. Got to have enough to weld to though. Pretty frustrating - good luck.

Re: Valve Cover Hell [Re: Matt M] #1993672
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Sharp lookin' car, Matt!

Is that B5 blue?

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Yes B5 with B5 Interior.

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Originally Posted By Matt M
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Yes B5 with B5 Interior.


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A little update here.

Got the extractor in nice and tight.
as I attempted to reverse it out.......

SNAP, broken extractor.

Big breath, close the hood, walk in the house grab a beer.

The adventure continues.............

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Man that thing was IN there.
Welder only option now or drill deep.

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I have done that same thing in the past and that is the worse possible outcome.

My first duty station in the Navy was overhauling various antennas. I learned the hard way about broken bolts, extractors and corrosion.

They make an extractor remover, never tried one though. I usually used a punch to fracture the broken extractor, cause you ain't drilling it out. I understand that some machine shops can burn it out with a fancy machine, never used that either. But it'll cost at least a head gasket as well.

I never tried heating the broken extractor up red hot and hitting it with a freeze spray, but some have had success.


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Not sure next course action.

If there is a member in Tampa FL with some experience with this
kind of issue that wants to make some $ and drink some cold beer
let me know.

I think this project may have hit terminal velocity for me....LOL

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