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500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? #197970
01/19/09 12:08 PM
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I'm looking to get my 68 barracuda in the 11s so i've built a 500" bb stroker. I'm using stealth aluminum heads, the 557 lift mopar cam, and expect to use the car mostly on the street but it will see the track occassionally. I haven't picked up the carb yet but expect to go with the 1050 dominator.

Opinions please from those who have done this? Stick with the traditional torker II or ??


Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: D200] #197971
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hi there,

I have a 400 stroked to a 515 ci from 440 source, i too have the stealth heads. I also think i m close to the 560 lift as well. I ll be using the toker II intake on my set up. Your barcuda is alot lighter then my 74 charger. So you should get moving pretty quick. I d suggest on at least a 3500 rpm stall TQ in the tranny. As for carbs, well i have a few choices, a 650 holley, and an 850 demon. But i may have to get something bigger. If you have any pics send them over to my e mail.

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: D200] #197972
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Look for a larger plenum, as your CI goes up you
need to increase plenum volume also

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: D200] #197973
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Holley Street Dominator is a good one if your not going max wedge ports.

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: D200] #197974
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Quote:

I'm looking to get my 68 barracuda in the 11s so i've built a 500" bb stroker. I'm using stealth aluminum heads, the 557 lift mopar cam, and expect to use the car mostly on the street but it will see the track occassionally. I haven't picked up the carb yet but expect to go with the 1050 dominator.

Opinions please from those who have done this? Stick with the traditional torker II or ??





I would think a single plane is in order.Which one depends on wheather you want a dominator flange or a 4150 flange.If you have the hood clearance some say a 4150 flange with a dommy adapter works well.
I would think a victor would fill the bill with enough gear and converter.Others likely have more experience with dominators and no what intakes work best.
BTW you should be well into the 10's with some traction.

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: gch] #197975
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Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: QWK_ENUF] #197976
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Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: D200] #197977
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B or RB motor? There is one choice for the B motor and three choices for the RB motor if you want to run a Dominator on standard port heads.

The Mopar Performance M1 intake with the 4500 flange is a great intake and is fairly low profile. The M1 intake is avaiable for both the B or the RB motor.

For the RB motors, the Edelbrock Super Victor with std ports is an excellent intake but it is pretty tall. There is also a Weiand Team G intake with the 4500 flange but it is kind of a funky intake with big notches in the inner runners.

If it was my engine I'd go with the MP M1 intake. 725 for the RB or 724 for the B motor. They work great, they're cheap and the they look pretty good.

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: D200] #197978
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Here is the M1 intake with a 4500 flange. This is on my 505 motor that has CNC ported Mopar heads. 680 hp with a street roller cam. This setup would make a killer street/strip combo if you can afford the race gas!

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: D200] #197979
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I'm looking to get my 68 barracuda in the 11s so i've built a 500" bb stroker. I'm using stealth aluminum heads, the 557 lift mopar cam, and expect to use the car mostly on the street but it will see the track occassionally. I haven't picked up the carb yet but expect to go with the 1050 dominator.

Opinions please from those who have done this? Stick with the traditional torker II or ??






I've put a 4000 lb car deep in the 11's
with only 440 cubes, 452 iron heads and a
825 race Demon carb.

Your combo could get buy with less carb. If you
want the big carb, I would give it more cam.
The M-1 works real good. Which ever way you go,
your car should run 10's easy with tuning and
track time.
Yes mine was a daily street driver.


Snap your neck, mega G-force launch, is all I want!
Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: D200] #197980
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Had good success w/431 &
E Heads (prepped by Dwayne Porter)
Edelbrock RPM manifold, 1 inch spacer, 950 Holley, 4.10 gears
Works pretty good in a heavy stick car
Hope this helps


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Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: oldiron] #197981
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This would be a great candidate for the Big duel plane intake that Indy offers. and would complement that cam shaft well. This intake can be open'd up to max wedge window down the road too. It blows away about any duel plan intake there is, and made more power than about any traditional single plan too.. It crucified the other intake in mid range torque. I just dont think the larger Victor, style high rise intakes would work well with those heads, and camshaft. You will never see the rpm it takes to make them run.


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Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #197982
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I second the big dual plane indy offers. best out there for street strip!

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: D200] #197983
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For a 4150 carb , I recommend either the Indy 2D or the holley SD. On the dyno they were pretty close to each other on my 500" engine in the 550 to 580 hp range.

If you use the Dommy - I don't know. If you use the Indy 2D with a Dommy and adapter, you'll have hood clearance issues, possibly not with the SD.

My

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: BSB67] #197984
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Well my opinion isnt worth much, but you can have it for free..
The reason I would not go with the Victor or any other High rise intake is that the motor is mostly street, and that engine and cam wont RPM very high. Im guessing 5600-5800 and she's all done. Those intakes just work better on 6K and higher engines, but the good side is that if you do use one of those intakes, it might hook better on the street, do to the loss in torque..

The Holley SD would be a good intake, and If I could pick one up fairly cheap...that would be the way to go also.


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Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: Bob_Coomer] #197985
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The Indy dual plane on a 500 inch motor is a very stout piece, especially in MW form and with a big carb!!

But in a light cuda a single plane may help a bit by actually taking off a little upper bottom (if you can't hook it up) to make the car more tractible.

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Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: D200] #197986
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getting a 500" Abody cuda into the 11's would be no problem.
I used a M1 single plane and a ThermoQuad on a mild 493" to get a long wheel base truck into the mid 11's with a 3.31 gear.

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: RedRam] #197987
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wow Red Ram that truck really hauls with that TQ!

Nice!

Does anybody have any comparisons between the M1 and the big Indy dual plane. I kind of boiled it down between those two. I have an M1 but my 500 inch stroker might like the dual plane better as it will be in a heavy car.(Challenger)

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: B1Fish540] #197988
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Bunch of stuff hear!
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0701_mopar_intake_manifold/index.html
Hughes used to have some good articles with floe numbers but links no longer work and they seem gone from sight

Re: 500 inch Mopar Build - Which intake to go with? [Re: Dodgem] #197989
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