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#2117040 - 07/25/16 12:46 AM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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I would box the bracket in, or at least add a center support gusset, it will give the sheet metal more support on a rough road. The open bracket could flex and cause an issue with the rad & hoses om the roads around here. Gene

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#2117111 - 07/25/16 06:57 AM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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The wheelbase on that looks great! I've seen way more frame swaps where the wheelbase isn't correct for the body than ones that look like they are supposed to.

As long as your welds are good you probably won't have a problem with the bracket as is. That being said a boxing in the top of the bracket would give it a more finished look and peace of mind for you.
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#2117112 - 07/25/16 07:04 AM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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if you mean the bracket used to support the front sheet metal, that would be a good idea, as that would eliminate any chance for it to promote side to side bending forces.
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#2117207 - 07/25/16 10:01 AM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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Thanks for input peoples good or bad I like the input, I will box it in when I take front suspension off to rebuild worn parts.

Need to make bumper bracket mounts now. O goodie more welding I like to weld smile
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#2117826 - 07/25/16 11:03 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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Originally Posted By 67R/T4speeder
Thanks for input peoples good or bad I like the input, I will box it in when I take front suspension off to rebuild worn parts.

Need to make bumper bracket mounts now. O goodie more welding I like to weld smile



And, your doing a mighty fine job at it! up
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#2124972 - 08/04/16 02:33 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: poorboy]
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Originally Posted By poorboy
Originally Posted By 67R/T4speeder
Thanks for input peoples good or bad I like the input, I will box it in when I take front suspension off to rebuild worn parts.

Need to make bumper bracket mounts now. O goodie more welding I like to weld smile



And, your doing a mighty fine job at it! up
Gene

Thank you Gene
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#2149715 - 09/07/16 02:23 PM Re: `56 PLazakota project [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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I had some time to tear down suspension and cut off four/six banger mounts today. hammer


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#2157488 - 09/19/16 02:08 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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Fresh coat of paint always looks good to me.


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#2158224 - 09/20/16 05:04 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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Originally Posted By 67R/T4speeder
Upper steering shaft spliced together and welded.


Hi Andy, the short version of a long story is I have a ‘56 Plodge two door wagon and was on the forward looking site and met Gary Sand who sent me to the facebook site which had a link to this site. Still with me? Great thread, love it. I have been building cars for 55 years (I’m 72 now) and by no way mean any criticism or anything other than the greatest respect, just a heads-up that might not even be applicable but might save you some major grief down the road.

In many states and motor vehicle jurisdictions it is not permissible to weld on steering parts and if inspected would be a fail and if involved in any kind of accident probably result in a major lawsuit.

I’m a newbie here but not with cars and life, sorry for any discomfort caused, its not intended. (Canadians are always apologizing) I look forward to reading your thread.

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#2158804 - 09/21/16 01:24 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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....yeah...not an issue in the US.

Plenty of 'other' counties regulate everything but we're not there quite yet....
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#2162005 - 09/26/16 12:02 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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I managed to get core support bracket boxed in now I can paint it up.


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#2162631 - 09/27/16 08:12 AM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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core support bracket looks good now. up it will be up to the task with no worries of flex or unwanted sideways movement.
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#2162692 - 09/27/16 09:50 AM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: moparx]
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Originally Posted By moparx
core support bracket looks good now. up it will be up to the task with no worries of flex or unwanted sideways movement.
beer


Thanks
I am going to make some rubber pads and metal shims to get body to line up similar to factory way.
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#2177678 - 10/18/16 12:10 PM Re: `56 Dodge modern front end swap advice [Re: John_Kunkel]
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Do you use wheel adapters to get away from the 6 lugs Dakota?

Any idea what year donor truck is preferred?

Thanks

Andy


My lugs are 5 X 4.5" so it might be a '90 clip or rotors were changed...junkyard receipt says it was a '91. shruggy


Do you have spool mounts on your car John I cannot tell in your pics you shared? Having some difficulty getting bracket to frame on drivers side to clear rack using spools.
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#2177681 - 10/18/16 12:18 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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Here is my issue with using the spool mounts at the moment. The rack is so close there is little room to build bracket to frame. Seems I had more room when I mocked up with pad style / early mounts. I go stare at it some more. work


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#2177762 - 10/18/16 02:10 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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Looks to me like you can go straight down with the frame brackets, then add a gusset at the rear of the brackets bracing towards the side, if you want to keep the spool mounts. When we did the 5.9 Magnum into the 57 Dodge wagon, we just used the later 80s sandwich mounts with the plate interlocks. Gene

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#2177997 - 10/18/16 05:02 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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Anchor 2469 fitting a B250 `88 type Gene? Thanks for input.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/dodge,1988,b250,5.2l+318cid+v8,1073449,engine,motor+mount,5552?a=Referer+www.google.com+URL+%2Fen%2Fcatalog%2Fdodge


Sorry not too good at linking shocked


Edited by 67R/T4speeder (10/18/16 05:02 PM)
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#2178088 - 10/18/16 07:22 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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Motor mount link

I haven't been too impressed with Anchor motor mounts myself, rubber comes apart too easy.

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#2178186 - 10/18/16 09:04 PM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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I don't know about the brand, but those are the correct mounts we used. I believe ours came from Orilly's or NAPA. We paid more then $1.95 for them! Gene

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#2178493 - 10/19/16 09:58 AM Re: `56 Plazakota [Re: 67R/T4speeder]
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I was just using that for a sample pic but I goofed that up LOL

I will see if dealer still has them around.

Thanks again
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