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A518 46RE conversion for BB #1960771
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I'm kind of a newbie on this one and have found a lot of threads about the A518 46RH version but I've bought a A518 46RE transmission and Í'm looking for info.

I know have to use a JW Preformance Ultra-bell Bellhousing, part 92457 and have to fabricate a new transmission mount.

I heared that there are a few conversion kit and that a possiblity is going to full manual with a transgo shift kit.

What else do I need to make it work?

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Try to get the RH version. It can be controlled with two switches for lockup and overdrive. The RE version is electronic and you will need a standalone trans controller. The RH can be modified easier just like a 727 with shift kits, governors etc.


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Yeah, I don't know if there is a stand alone controller available?

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That's the point. I don't want to change to a RH. I'm looking for info on the RE model.

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As already said, the RE models require a controller to work. A Moparts member here was designing one. Here's a link to that thread.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...design-one.html

There are two others I am aware of that also are capable of controlling the RE models. Here are links to those two.

http://www.firepunk.com/anteater/

https://www.powertraincontrolsolutions.c...ion_Controller/

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Is there any performance benefits of the RE over the RH to justify the ~$800-$1000 controller?

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Originally Posted By cnxt
Is there any performance benefits of the RE over the RH to justify the ~$800-$1000 controller?


Not really as the RH uses a hydraulic gov and the RE uses an electronic gov. So the RE needs a controller to read the output shaft speed sensor and the gov pressure sensor. The controller has to duty cycle the gov solenoid to control gov pressure. On the RH is all done with the gov weights like on the 727 and 904. Ron

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I'll add my experience with the RE is it's not very reliable because of the lackluster attempt by Chrysler Engineering to make sure all the solenoids work without a hitch.

It's too much to get into, but their early attempts at combining the PCM control with transmission control was terrible.


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Is there any way to make the transmission work manually and operate the OD with a self controlled switch?

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Not that I'm aware of. You might check the Cummins or Turbo Diesel Registry forums as the trucks used both RH up to 95 and RE 96 on. The diesel people are working those over. All I've seen on the RE is that it needs a controller to operate it. The RH can get by with two switches, one each for od and lu. Another one to think of is the unit on the 91-93 diesel. It is od only, has no lock up converter. This would help on converter choices since it can use a standard unit that is readily available and less expensive than a custom lock up unit. Also since you are using a b-motor, find a trans that was behind either a diesel or V10. These ran internal components that would be the equivalent to a hemi 727. 5 pinion planetaries, more clutches, wider bands etc. Since you know you have to cut off the bell housing to put the trans bell on, this would be a better choice for your motor. Sun coast, Goerend bros are a couple of companies I know that do diesel stuff. Check with them. I would stay away from ATS. They have a bad rep for customer service issues. Not a good thing since you are across the pond.


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Page 8 /9 has some info for RH controller

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=84774.0

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A basic RE controller will effectively be the same as a stock RH.

The main difference is that the shift points with the RH are set by the weights in the governor, while with the RE, they can be changed 'on the fly' based on the current load, transmission temperature, 4HI-4LO, etc.


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Originally Posted By dickdale
Is there any way to make the transmission work manually and operate the OD with a self controlled switch?


Not that I've heard of.

If you were to get a PCM from an later edition 2nd Gen Ram, and mimick the inputs from throttle position sensor, throttle valve cable, and vehicle speed sensor it could be possible.

I say maybe...........but, might as well go all the way and adapt all the fuel injection to your big block and have a "full loop" setup. Basically, you would be running a 2001 Dodge Ram factory system on your 383/400/440 to operate the transmission and get the added perk of efi.

Give you any ideas? devil


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The trans is from a 1995 Dodge B250. Is it possible to use the controller from the B250 and put it in my 70's Plymouth?

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yes the transgo kit will work to make it all manual shift,, call & talk to them.


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Originally Posted By csk
yes the transgo kit will work to make it all manual shift,, call & talk to them.


But you still need to deal with the Electronic Governor circuit.


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Originally Posted By dickdale
The trans is from a 1995 Dodge B250. Is it possible to use the controller from the B250 and put it in my 70's Plymouth?


I'm sure it could be done, you'd need the controller, the wiring harness and the schematic and then you would need to install whatever inputs the controller needs to operate the transmission circuits.


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Originally Posted By Grizzly
Originally Posted By dickdale
Is there any way to make the transmission work manually and operate the OD with a self controlled switch?


Not that I've heard of.

If you were to get a PCM from an later edition 2nd Gen Ram, and mimick the inputs from throttle position sensor, throttle valve cable, and vehicle speed sensor it could be possible.

I say maybe...........but, might as well go all the way and adapt all the fuel injection to your big block and have a "full loop" setup. Basically, you would be running a 2001 Dodge Ram factory system on your 383/400/440 to operate the transmission and get the added perk of efi.

Give you any ideas? devil


That's a great idea but you'd need to redo the fuel mapping ...


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Check the connector, if it's 3 pin its RH.
I got my 518 RH out of a 95 B3500

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the instructions that came with my transgo kit show how to convert the RE trans to full manual. CALL transgo, they are very helpful.


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