Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
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Try to get the RH version. It can be controlled with two switches for lockup and overdrive. The RE version is electronic and you will need a standalone trans controller. The RH can be modified easier just like a 727 with shift kits, governors etc.
Carl Kessel
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Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
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Is there any performance benefits of the RE over the RH to justify the ~$800-$1000 controller? Not really as the RH uses a hydraulic gov and the RE uses an electronic gov. So the RE needs a controller to read the output shaft speed sensor and the gov pressure sensor. The controller has to duty cycle the gov solenoid to control gov pressure. On the RH is all done with the gov weights like on the 727 and 904. Ron
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Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
[Re: dickdale]
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I'll add my experience with the RE is it's not very reliable because of the lackluster attempt by Chrysler Engineering to make sure all the solenoids work without a hitch.
It's too much to get into, but their early attempts at combining the PCM control with transmission control was terrible.
Mo' Farts
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Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
[Re: dickdale]
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Not that I'm aware of. You might check the Cummins or Turbo Diesel Registry forums as the trucks used both RH up to 95 and RE 96 on. The diesel people are working those over. All I've seen on the RE is that it needs a controller to operate it. The RH can get by with two switches, one each for od and lu. Another one to think of is the unit on the 91-93 diesel. It is od only, has no lock up converter. This would help on converter choices since it can use a standard unit that is readily available and less expensive than a custom lock up unit. Also since you are using a b-motor, find a trans that was behind either a diesel or V10. These ran internal components that would be the equivalent to a hemi 727. 5 pinion planetaries, more clutches, wider bands etc. Since you know you have to cut off the bell housing to put the trans bell on, this would be a better choice for your motor. Sun coast, Goerend bros are a couple of companies I know that do diesel stuff. Check with them. I would stay away from ATS. They have a bad rep for customer service issues. Not a good thing since you are across the pond.
Carl Kessel
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Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
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A basic RE controller will effectively be the same as a stock RH.
The main difference is that the shift points with the RH are set by the weights in the governor, while with the RE, they can be changed 'on the fly' based on the current load, transmission temperature, 4HI-4LO, etc.
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Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
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Is there any way to make the transmission work manually and operate the OD with a self controlled switch? Not that I've heard of. If you were to get a PCM from an later edition 2nd Gen Ram, and mimick the inputs from throttle position sensor, throttle valve cable, and vehicle speed sensor it could be possible. I say maybe...........but, might as well go all the way and adapt all the fuel injection to your big block and have a "full loop" setup. Basically, you would be running a 2001 Dodge Ram factory system on your 383/400/440 to operate the transmission and get the added perk of efi. Give you any ideas?
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Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
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yes the transgo kit will work to make it all manual shift,, call & talk to them.
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI 512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim 2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
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yes the transgo kit will work to make it all manual shift,, call & talk to them. But you still need to deal with the Electronic Governor circuit.
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Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
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The trans is from a 1995 Dodge B250. Is it possible to use the controller from the B250 and put it in my 70's Plymouth? I'm sure it could be done, you'd need the controller, the wiring harness and the schematic and then you would need to install whatever inputs the controller needs to operate the transmission circuits.
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Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
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Is there any way to make the transmission work manually and operate the OD with a self controlled switch? Not that I've heard of. If you were to get a PCM from an later edition 2nd Gen Ram, and mimick the inputs from throttle position sensor, throttle valve cable, and vehicle speed sensor it could be possible. I say maybe...........but, might as well go all the way and adapt all the fuel injection to your big block and have a "full loop" setup. Basically, you would be running a 2001 Dodge Ram factory system on your 383/400/440 to operate the transmission and get the added perk of efi. Give you any ideas? That's a great idea but you'd need to redo the fuel mapping ...
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Re: A518 46RE conversion for BB
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the instructions that came with my transgo kit show how to convert the RE trans to full manual. CALL transgo, they are very helpful.
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI 512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim 2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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